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there are people who don't think this is

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good and they have x they've had they

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have expressed that thought

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they think this is a waste of time but

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i know there are people who who do like

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this and the people who are not on

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twitter

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live i am talking to myself which is

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uh i was gonna record this because i'm

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more comfortable doing it uh recording

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wise but

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i will do it live

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screw it we'll do it live

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i will start off with yesterday

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yesterday and i'll also keep this up for

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i've gotten some new patreon so thank

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you for that folks who are supporting

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this and if you do

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like this and my blog and twitter

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feel free to support me that's great

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if not i understand um definitely need

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it if i'm going to continue to do this

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as much as i do

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but we'll see what happens

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and i want to pull up an article from

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i don't have my camera on because i am

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and let me get rid of this and that's

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what you're going to get you can get

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now but let's see

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all right so that's an article from

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from travis trenton and he's a guy

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press conferences with john kirby i

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he wrote a good article yesterday the

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headline is great i mean it's exciting

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pentagon ufo rapid response teams

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ordered up by congress that's exactly

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what we've been hoping for

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a lot of us have been hoping hoping for

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if anybody yeah

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silly humans edward

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you guys are already asking questions

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do you believe the sumerians gnostic

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accounts are closer to the truth than

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some of the gnostic accounts grant

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but he talks about how everything was

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created on this planet

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what is her name i forget and i was

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enjoyed it and i forget i'm drawing a

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it talks about the archons and

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things were created on this planet and

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then now we're stuck with these archons

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controlling things and i don't know i

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how's it going picks

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uh our humans livestock harvested by for

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kind of vibe and stopped going but that

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research but that was one thing he did

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smart guy and he talks about that

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um there are other people who talk about

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tim mcmillan was all over my case making

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fun of tom belong saying that

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you know these these whatever

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the ufo represents they are bad and they

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feed off of our negative energy whether

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or not that's true or not i don't know

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but it's not a new concept

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so let me get back to

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intelligence community experts would

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rapidly respond to military ufo

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sightings and conduct field

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investigations under newly unveiled

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defense legislation set to pass congress

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lawmakers also want scientific and

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the objects or what the military calls

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medical effects according to the text of

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the annual defense authorization bill

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reports and by annual briefings to

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defense committees marking the most

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ufo legislation ever passed

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by that article and i am looking

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who was part of the whole tic-tac

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encounter who is on with us now

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i mean i like doing this because i like

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you know updating people on youtube

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who who aren't on twitter because i

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created by me of course nothing major

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because people assume if i say something

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critical that i throw the whole baby out

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with the bathwater and i don't i don't

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try not to do that

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nothing really new in there um

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the folks who are supporting the

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who's john oh they're yeah and they

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he's done some great work

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gillibrand proposals i have looked and i

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uh he says famous ufo initiative and

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famous famous ufo initiatives in the

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and then they talk about the june report

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i don't want to get you the impression

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we're going to have reports every you

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know every few months and we have to

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worry about national security so

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um and he hands it he says the group is

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run by ronald moultrie the under

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and security that's the group that lou

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melon said probably are not the best to

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oversight and congress is staying

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on this and the folks in the senate

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intelligence committee and armed

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services committee if they're staying on

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as long as they're staying on top of it

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it's fine we can they can push if they

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think they're not getting information

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they should be getting so

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so as long as that goes on but that

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pick says okay now we have a real lot of

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0.2 how can we actually make sure the

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government doesn't try to continue the

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our obfuscation disinfo games

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um the only way to do that is if it

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happens we have to vote those people out

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but the fact that they are pushing this

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and rubio and gillibrand and

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gallego the fact they're obviously

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interested in this whatever they've been

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shown whatever their staffers have been

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shown i assume if their staffers were

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shown amazing video then those senators

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would say okay

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let me have a briefing let me see it for

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myself so whatever they're shown

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and they're being careful to also

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include the possibility that it's russia

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and china which

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i don't think i don't think this is all

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russia and china we're going through all

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this

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but whatever they're seeing is enough

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for them to be pushing for this language

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so yeah it's a big deal um

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that's the only way as far as applying

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real pressure is just

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i don't think we have enough people to

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apply the pressure we need and i know

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that's not a

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not a not a popular opinion but i just

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don't think our community is the

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passionate part of our community that

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does call our representatives i don't

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think we're large enough to really you

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know doug johnson was saying make sure

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you don't call gallego's office unless

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you live in arizona i'm like i don't

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think it's a problem we're gonna be

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overwhelming their phones with calls you

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know i don't think we're that many

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people yet i mean yeah a lot of people

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are interested but i don't think we're

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to the point where

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enough of us are passionate enough to

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make phone calls and write letters

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one quick question do you have any

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information about experiences with a

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council of about four no

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i do not know anything about that i'm

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sorry i know travis

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travis tritton um

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not a country fan but i do know that

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i know ralph blumenthal wrote about them

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recently in an article yeah i don't know

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about that um

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i'm no i don't i'm sorry

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sorry edward

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so anyway

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this is me taking a shot here

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there are

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journalists or editors

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saying asap chased goblins and it's just

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it's just an embarrassment if you're

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going to study this subject

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don't tell people that don't don't

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don't make up stories

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what asap did was investigate sightings

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and close encounters

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and then they talked to the witnesses

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and they

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they communicated

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to the folks at bass and assap what they

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experienced and some of it is really

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hard to believe for me it's not i don't

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use the word believe i just believe that

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the witnesses are telling the truth as

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far as they know it what they

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experienced it and

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some of it is like

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you know the bipedal wolves the one

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woman and her her kid and the kids

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friends saw

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but there's more that we i'm sure we

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don't know about because

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kelleher when i interviewed him he said

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and it's in the book too when they went

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to the department of homeland security

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james lukaszki let loose with

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you know everything that they had

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including some of the controversial

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creatures that were seen that's not

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chasing goblins that's chasing that's

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that's following the evidence so it

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bothers me when i see

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you know offhand remarks like that

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i don't put the person's name but the

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person it's it's um it's mj banayas from

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the from the

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the um the brief he just ha it seems

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like he has a problem it seems like tim

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mcmillan also has a problem with awesome

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so and i usually battle with him i'm

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like i thought asap in two years if you

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read skin workers at the pentagon they

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did an amazing job and they followed the

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evidence and i know a lot of people

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don't think we should be talking about

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poltergeist and stuff like that but it's

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gonna come up really soon and i had a

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hopefully it'll come up in my feed bryce

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zabel who created dark skies had

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something to say about woo because

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that's considered woo a lot of that

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poltergeists anyway

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so i was quoting from the article that

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dean had retweeted the military.com

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article and i just said you know if they

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investigate case cases where witness if

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the new office investigates cases where

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witnesses had close encounters and were

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injured and then they follow those cases

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for an extended period of time they're

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going to get stories like that once the

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witnesses feel comfortable they're going

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to share stories eric davis is the first

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one who said

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all closing he said all ufo encounters

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feature poltergeist activity always but

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i think what he meant because i saw

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other messages from him to me over the

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past couple of years where he talks

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about close encounters so it's more of a

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close encounter issue don't ask me why

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that happens nobody knows why

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but it seems like when people have close

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encounters

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the kind of activity like poltergeists

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and hitchhikers type of fact that

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happens

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and as i noted in my tweet as kelleher

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said to me in my interview he said

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that related phenomenon that's phenomena

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that's controversial also happened that

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project in the hessdalen area in norway

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um if you guys don't know about project

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tess dolan

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it's a very long running

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uap site um i also i actually thought it

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was starting i was starting to think it

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was a natural

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you know natural phenomena but then i

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hear kelleher saying no they they

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witnessed that kind of odd stuff so that

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tells me it's the same thing

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uh malmstrom air force base another

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place where we had incidents with ufos

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and nukes

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some of the people there had experiences

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you know the related phenomena

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and as i note eric davis says

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you know it happens with close

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encounters

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i don't quote more from the article but

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analyze medical effects so

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yeah they're going to analyze medical

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and data about objects and and i say

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analyze medical effects and materials

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that may have came may have come from

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uap in other words retrievals from

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off-world vehicles

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the language also refers to what can

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only be described as a future attempt to

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reverse engineer technology behind ufos

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so that was me saying that

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and yesterday was a good day seems like

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every day is a good day on this on this

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front right now

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and then and travis tritton wrote

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theories on uap range from drones to

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unmanned aircraft built by china or

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russia to extraterrestrial or

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interdimensional

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visitors that was like as i said that

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was in military.com

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so talking about and there's no laughing

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he's saying all you know theories range

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from our adversaries to et's to

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interdimensional visitors

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and that should have been in the

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associated press article back in june

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when according to danny sheen lou spoke

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to them and said

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yeah a possibility is extraterrestrial

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or interdimensional and if you read

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those articles associated press did not

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include that so

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you can think conspiracy and

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project mockenberg mockingbird type

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stuff but they just took that out i

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don't understand if you're a reporter

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and the person you're interviewing

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offers that up as a possibility you take

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it out it's no reason for that

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unless you have an agenda i i don't know

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if as a reporter even if it sounds

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outlandish to you it should be included

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and as i said that was all written but

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in a respected military site there's no

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joking no sarcasm car no sarcasm about

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little green men so yeah we're i think

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we're making progress

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and i will

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read some questions and look at the

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comments in one second

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i made a joke um that's what you guys

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i'm not going to go all the way back so

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the react so this is one thing i've

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discussed with friends the reality

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behind the phenomenon is so insane

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complicated there may be very good

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you know

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their slow role approach to disclosure

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may actually

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be laudable

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even if madden madding maddingly slow

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yeah

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i'm not you're not going to see me

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complain

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about the sometimes i'll get frustrated

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but for the most part i understand you

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know if they're trying to do this slowly

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i get it but i don't know i mean

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yeah i've heard things

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you're not going to believe you know

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reality it's just so much more

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complicated than we've been taught and

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so it might not be that it's negative it

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might be this like you said it's

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mind-blowing to scientists who are going

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to be like we

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we know so little about the universe and

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that may be problems for folks who have

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big egos who thought

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you know they knew what was going on

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people scoff at dog man but in ancient

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times the elder ones would say they

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lived in certain regions of the world

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or

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i'm gonna put out because i see danny on

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there for anybody else too i'm gonna put

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out the um

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the invite and i'm talking low because

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my ex is upstairs sleeping or soon

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and i don't want to be too loud

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the dog man could be

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i don't think dog men are really the

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creatures are dogmen i think whatever

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the phenomenon is it can

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take whatever form it wants to take and

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that's one of the forms as a trickster

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just to say look what we can do so

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i don't know

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i think the first time you were in in

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the chat

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if i recall

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um

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yeah but it's not

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it's not trusting the government it's so

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hard to say who you trust because

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there's so many different aspects

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of the government

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um

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so one of my tweets i said if i get a

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chance if i ever get a chance to

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interview senator reid my last question

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would be because reid always says

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let me get rid of this banner i don't

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want to put it up the whole time i'm

565
00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:43,840
gonna be like i'm begging for patreons

566
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:49,750
reed always says listen i talked to the

567
00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:52,720
person at the newspaper i talked to uh

568
00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:54,159
at the new york times helene i said

569
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:55,520
helene listen

570
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,840
i'm i'm very i'm happy to talk to you

571
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:59,360
about ufos if you want to talk about

572
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:00,880
science but if you want to talk about

573
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:03,280
little green men so he says he says that

574
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:04,240
all the time he's like i don't want to

575
00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:05,440
talk to you if you don't want if you

576
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:07,120
want to talk about little green man so i

577
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:08,720
said if i ever get a chance to ask him a

578
00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:10,400
question again or interview him again

579
00:21:14,830 --> 00:21:12,240
i'm going to say senator reid what if it

580
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:14,840
actually turns out they are little and

581
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,600
green hopefully he would laugh

582
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,360
the way i the way i interviewed him i

583
00:21:23,029 --> 00:21:21,280
was i was called to do a job

584
00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,039
as i'm a cameraman freelance and they

585
00:21:26,310 --> 00:21:24,799
said hey we got to shoot for some local

586
00:21:28,470 --> 00:21:26,320
politician i'm like alright cool what

587
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:28,480
day blah blah blah didn't think much of

588
00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,280
it

589
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,080
the day before

590
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:35,919
they go you're going to be interviewing

591
00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:37,120
you're going to be working with senator

592
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:38,960
harry reid

593
00:21:42,310 --> 00:21:40,400
and this was after you know everything

594
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:42,320
broke in the new york times i was like

595
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:44,159
really what are the chances that i was

596
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,799
called to interview harry reid i'm like

597
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:48,640
so

598
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:50,240
it was just he was just thanking

599
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:52,720
somebody who was retiring and saying oh

600
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:54,880
congratulations so-and-so you did a

601
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,720
great job and you're three years blah

602
00:22:00,149 --> 00:21:58,320
blah blah and then i shot that and then

603
00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:00,159
i said can we talk about ufos and he's

604
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:01,280
like

605
00:22:04,789 --> 00:22:02,799
on camera

606
00:22:06,070 --> 00:22:04,799
i'm like

607
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:06,080
it doesn't have to be he's like yeah i'd

608
00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,520
rather not do it on camera if we can

609
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,520
just do audio and i did i did audio and

610
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:11,039
i have the audio somewhere but i just

611
00:22:15,110 --> 00:22:12,720
wrote it up and transcribed it which is

612
00:22:16,789 --> 00:22:15,120
on my blog so that's how that happened

613
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:16,799
serendipity

614
00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:17,919
um

615
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:25,430
and it goes backwards

616
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:26,480
so

617
00:22:31,110 --> 00:22:28,880
this was a

618
00:22:33,750 --> 00:22:31,120
article by bryce

619
00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:33,760
zabel who like i said

620
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:35,520
wrote

621
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:41,110
dark skies which i don't think i've ever

622
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:42,960
i've seen some episodes but it's hard to

623
00:22:45,110 --> 00:22:44,480
find it's hard to get i think it comes

624
00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:45,120
on

625
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:48,960
it's not i wish it was streaming that i

626
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,960
would buy in a second but it's not

627
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:52,480
streaming

628
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,360
and um sean cahill

629
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:57,760
who's on the nimitz

630
00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,159
back during the tic tac incident he was

631
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,240
featured in unidentified he says ufo

632
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:04,559
twitter is more than a hashtag grabble

633
00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:06,799
we help change the world the subject

634
00:23:11,830 --> 00:23:09,200
data and conclusions belong to all of

635
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,840
humanity this matters the work has only

636
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,799
begun

637
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:14,240
enjoy the

638
00:23:17,909 --> 00:23:16,159
rebels that come with victory the next

639
00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:17,919
battle awaits

640
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,310
the latin means libertas

641
00:23:28,310 --> 00:23:25,919
i'm not even gonna try to pronounce it i

642
00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:28,320
did not google it so i don't know

643
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:30,799
um all right so let me get this this

644
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:33,440
might be the controversy okay

645
00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:35,679
here's the controversy

646
00:23:37,830 --> 00:23:36,480
and

647
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:37,840
right off the bat just want to say i

648
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:40,000
support what lou and christopher mellon

649
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,039
have done

650
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,120
as a great source of mindset they broke

651
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:45,600
their asses doing this so i support them

652
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:48,400
so don't take my criticism here as

653
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:49,520
me

654
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:54,080
has done so just make make sure you know

655
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:55,120
that

656
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,240
um

657
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:57,919
because in the past if i say negative

658
00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:59,919
about anything people think you're a

659
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:02,000
ttsa hater you just said something

660
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:04,720
negative about lou and like no no

661
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,880
just one thing so anyway so christopher

662
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:08,559
mellon says

663
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:10,400
about douglas johnson's article

664
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,360
yesterday he goes a superb article

665
00:24:18,149 --> 00:24:15,760
below on the uap bill in congress not a

666
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,159
secret little contract effort like

667
00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:20,480
awesome that's the first time he's ever

668
00:24:25,590 --> 00:24:22,960
mentioned ossap as far as i know

669
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:25,600
either in an interview or

670
00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:27,279
in a tweet

671
00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,360
he goes so the bill in congress that we

672
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:31,679
have right now is not a secret little

673
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:34,080
contract or effort like asap

674
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:36,480
which i took to be a shot at assab

675
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,480
but it's an approach that engages the

676
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:40,240
full and official weight of the united

677
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,440
states government

678
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:43,679
signifies huge progress courageous

679
00:24:48,470 --> 00:24:46,159
leadership and welcome bipartisanship

680
00:24:49,990 --> 00:24:48,480
so i wrote i'm confused i appreciate all

681
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,000
the hard work done by

682
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:52,640
melon and elizondo but not sure why mr

683
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,279
mellon felt the need to take an apparent

684
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,600
shot and maybe i'm wrong at awsap on a

685
00:25:02,390 --> 00:24:59,120
day where we were all celebrating the

686
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,400
progress made on the ndaa

687
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:03,919
let me click on this so i can go through

688
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:06,080
my tweets

689
00:25:15,190 --> 00:25:12,070
ossap wasn't the small effort they had

690
00:25:16,710 --> 00:25:15,200
50 employees investigators scientists

691
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:16,720
physicians and i'm getting that from the

692
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:18,159
book and from the various interviews

693
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:20,159
kelleher and lakatsky and knapp have

694
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,960
done

695
00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:22,559
50 employees were hired and they

696
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:24,159
investigated various cases around the

697
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:26,320
country in the book skinwalkers at the

698
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,679
pentagon they wrote

699
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,159
more than 75 contractor personnel

700
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:32,880
performed exotic aerospace research and

701
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:34,720
several hundred part-time personnel

702
00:25:38,950 --> 00:25:36,640
conducted field work as multi-million

703
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:38,960
dollar database

704
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,960
conducted field work a multi-million

705
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,720
dollar database to store contract

706
00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:45,600
research data was developed both awesome

707
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:48,159
and atip were secret

708
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:49,840
in fact christopher mellon didn't even

709
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,400
know about atip for the longest time

710
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:55,120
in a 2016 because he mentioned how it

711
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,120
was secret but atip was secret too he

712
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,559
doesn't mention that

713
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:59,919
it seems like

714
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:02,240
ossep always gets the shots atip doesn't

715
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:03,520
get any shots

716
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:06,720
um in 2016 in an interview with leslie

717
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,720
keane christopher and that's on

718
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,320
huffington post if you type in

719
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,000
christopher mellon leslie keane

720
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:14,240
huffington post you'll find it i'll put

721
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:16,960
it in the comments afterwards

722
00:26:21,269 --> 00:26:19,520
in the show notes um

723
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:21,279
and i'll put up comments but let me read

724
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:22,840
this in a second

725
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,559
so that was 2016 before

726
00:26:29,669 --> 00:26:28,080
ttsa

727
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:29,679
was public

728
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,520
um i'm not sure if i even read this at

729
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:33,440
the time i probably did

730
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:36,960
so melon set to keen in 2016. i highly

731
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:39,120
doubt the department of defense or any

732
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:41,600
other government agency is concealing

733
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:43,679
ufo information

734
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:46,559
i participated in a comprehensive review

735
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,200
of dod's black programs and spent over a

736
00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:51,679
decade conducting oversight of the

737
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:54,320
national foreign intelligence program an

738
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:57,679
almost totally separate world of secrets

739
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,240
i visited area 51 and other military

740
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:02,880
intelligence and research facilities

741
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:05,360
during all those years i never detected

742
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,240
the faintest hint of government interest

743
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:11,360
or involvement in ufos

744
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:12,400
so

745
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:15,600
their programs were going on asap and

746
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:17,679
atip he did not know about it

747
00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:18,720
um

748
00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:20,799
whatever whatever other programs that

749
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:23,360
we've heard about we're going on to

750
00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:24,320
so

751
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,240
you know

752
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:27,840
and

753
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:29,440
full interview i link to on there which

754
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:31,200
i'll which doesn't help you right here

755
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,399
but it's on my it's on my twitter feed

756
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,320
and i'm talking about the people who

757
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,240
were involved in assap i said senator

758
00:27:41,669 --> 00:27:40,080
reid senators in your way and stevens

759
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,679
with the help of senator john glenn

760
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:42,960
astronaut

761
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,039
plus dr jim lukasky and some folks at

762
00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:47,120
dia who were supporting him in the

763
00:27:50,549 --> 00:27:48,640
effort

764
00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:50,559
showed courageous leadership in getting

765
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,399
the asap program started and did their

766
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,320
best to keep it going unfortunately that

767
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:56,240
did not happen

768
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,840
because what happened is the information

769
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:59,760
about ossep leaked when they tried to

770
00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,919
make it a special access program the

771
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,600
letter to uh

772
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:05,840
deputy secretary of defense lin i think

773
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:08,000
that was his title that leaked

774
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,080
somebody leaked it um i think i know the

775
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:12,080
person who leaked it

776
00:28:14,950 --> 00:28:13,440
which i don't know offhand which i

777
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,960
probably would not say because i might

778
00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,799
be that might be considered

779
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:19,039
docs in somebody um

780
00:28:22,549 --> 00:28:20,559
and then everybody found out about it

781
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:22,559
and and they tried to kill it before

782
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:24,799
that it was very secret

783
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:26,320
and that's why reed and the other ones

784
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:27,440
wanted it that way because they knew

785
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:28,640
people would try to come after the

786
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,080
funding and they would have a problem

787
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:32,320
with ufos

788
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:34,240
i'm not sure without and then bigelow

789
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:36,320
you know a contractor i don't know if we

790
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:38,480
would have even had ossap

791
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:40,559
since nobody else bid on the program i

792
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,399
think george knapp said that lockheed

793
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:44,159
sniffed around they never made an

794
00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,000
official bid

795
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,840
and to me and i think people are

796
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,440
realizing if we really want to have a

797
00:28:53,510 --> 00:28:51,440
shot at understanding ufos

798
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:53,520
the awesome effort the way they did it

799
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,279
is the way it needs to go if that's what

800
00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:57,440
we need to do we can't put limits on you

801
00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,679
know what the phenomena represents and

802
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:01,919
i'm glad senator gillibrand

803
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:04,000
adopted some of the methods of assap it

804
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:05,200
wasn't you know that we didn't get

805
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,799
everything but there's a lot of in there

806
00:29:11,190 --> 00:29:08,640
that's that's really really good and

807
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,200
very awesome like

808
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,120
and i said assap was secret but let's

809
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:15,520
not pretend that the new ufo office is

810
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,520
going to be a bastion of openness and

811
00:29:21,990 --> 00:29:20,000
transparency i mean yeah i would love to

812
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,000
see all the data that comes out of it

813
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:24,880
but we're getting one report per year

814
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,120
i mean come on so and and the rest of

815
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,960
it's going to be classified so it's

816
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:30,080
still not

817
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:33,760
want it to be private i want it to be

818
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:34,720
you know

819
00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:37,279
funded outside of government but

820
00:29:42,710 --> 00:29:39,120
as i said yesterday we'll take what we

821
00:29:46,789 --> 00:29:44,950
and i said i took a little shot i said

822
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:46,799
hopefully the unclassified version that

823
00:29:50,549 --> 00:29:48,240
we get from this new office is going to

824
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:50,559
be more than nine pages which was the

825
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:54,720
recent june 25th report we got and yes

826
00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:56,399
we have yet to see most of the data from

827
00:30:01,669 --> 00:29:59,279
osap but same goes for atep you know

828
00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:01,679
we've seen three videos that's it

829
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,440
i'm hoping the new office and danny

830
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,720
brought this up i'm not sure if danny's

831
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:06,080
still here but danny brought this up

832
00:30:11,029 --> 00:30:09,200
it's like okay if melon is calling ossap

833
00:30:13,190 --> 00:30:11,039
small that means

834
00:30:14,710 --> 00:30:13,200
the new office is going to be

835
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,720
if it's going to be bigger than ossep

836
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:15,919
it's going to be

837
00:30:20,549 --> 00:30:18,559
amazing like i said 50 full-time

838
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:20,559
employees were hired for ossep and then

839
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:23,200
you had you know hundreds

840
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,200
of scientists and contractors working

841
00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:27,200
along with them if the new office is

842
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,799
going to be bigger than that i'll be

843
00:30:32,389 --> 00:30:30,640
very happy but let's see let's see what

844
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,399
happens

845
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:34,399
like i said i'm skeptical but i remain

846
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,159
possible i remain excited for the

847
00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:37,919
possibilities and once again applaud the

848
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:39,600
work of melon i want to make sure i keep

849
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:41,440
saying that i want people to think i'm

850
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:43,520
being negative at a time where we were

851
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,600
making you know

852
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:47,440
this is historic as somebody said to me

853
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:49,200
so

854
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,720
yeah and

855
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:52,799
like i said a highly respected source of

856
00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:54,799
mindset

857
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,880
this nda language is historic and

858
00:31:02,549 --> 00:31:00,559
mellon and elizondo and everybody else

859
00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:02,559
broke their backs to get it done

860
00:31:05,269 --> 00:31:03,679
then i say if you haven't read

861
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:05,279
skinwalkers at the pentagon i really

862
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:06,799
it's it's one of the most important

863
00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,159
books i mean

864
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:10,159
it doesn't have everything i want to see

865
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:11,840
no do i have more questions that i want

866
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,159
yes answered yes of course

867
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:15,840
but to see you know two years of a

868
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,720
program put into a book um the book

869
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:20,640
could have been twice twice the length

870
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,880
george knapp said um but it's a really

871
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:24,000
good read

872
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:26,559
and i'm still going through it

873
00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:28,480
and i just give my patreon stuff i'm

874
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,399
trying to think what else so let me get

875
00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:32,720
out of there

876
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:34,399
and let me look at some questions i'm

877
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,600
trying to see

878
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,519
what else i had from yesterday i mean

879
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:39,120
it's a lot of stuff between i only

880
00:31:45,269 --> 00:31:41,039
wanted to do this for an hour and go to

881
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,310
who was speaking

882
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:50,870
this is me that's my twitter

883
00:31:54,389 --> 00:31:51,840
joe

884
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:56,070
it's all right jerry

885
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:58,480
i could do different voices

886
00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:00,720
i could do my

887
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,320
um

888
00:32:05,830 --> 00:32:04,080
who was the voice oh i could do my i had

889
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:05,840
my richard dolan impersonation but i'm

890
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:08,480
not doing that now

891
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:11,200
uh when i did the dolan she and

892
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:13,679
that whole group martin summers marshall

893
00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:16,559
summers i was doing voices

894
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:22,230
soft disclosure has happened most except

895
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:25,279
no we aren't alone

896
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:27,440
the details that are likely going to be

897
00:32:31,190 --> 00:32:29,440
more unsettling um

898
00:32:32,630 --> 00:32:31,200
i don't know the people i know don't

899
00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:32,640
think we're alone they don't think we're

900
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:34,799
alone in the universe but on this planet

901
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:36,159
no they don't even give it a second

902
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:38,799
thought most of the people i know so

903
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:45,029
mick west

904
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:49,360
right right no no no no no no no good

905
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,080
jelly brown senator gillibrand all right

906
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,320
um this is a nothing burger it's a

907
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:56,159
nothing burger senator gillibrand is a

908
00:32:59,590 --> 00:32:57,919
nothing burger i just don't think that

909
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:59,600
this is it's a balloon it's obviously a

910
00:33:02,470 --> 00:33:00,640
balloon

911
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:02,480
that's that's my mick west i haven't

912
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,080
practiced it so i need to listen to him

913
00:33:11,190 --> 00:33:08,559
um so let's see

914
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:11,200
so this is kind of cool let's see so

915
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:17,029
bryce zabel who wrote like i said

916
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,880
created dark skies wrote an article

917
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,320
about john lennon's

918
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:22,640
ufo sighting in august of 74. it's

919
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:25,440
really great um

920
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:26,640
there's also i also linked to an

921
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:27,840
interview with lennon where he talks

922
00:33:30,630 --> 00:33:29,440
about his ufo sighting he had with

923
00:33:32,630 --> 00:33:30,640
maypeng

924
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,640
who was his girlfriend for a short while

925
00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:35,279
when he was not with yoko ono

926
00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:36,799
and

927
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:38,720
it's a great article uh information i

928
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:41,039
had never heard before and then

929
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:43,360
in the article he shows john lennon john

930
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,399
lennon's drawing his own drawing of the

931
00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:47,600
ufo he

932
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,310
and that's from 74 and then one of the

933
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:56,480
witnesses from the west all australia

934
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,519
case

935
00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:00,000
is 1966 is on the right so very very

936
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:02,399
similar very similar and they were like

937
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:03,840
light bulbs he was saying underneath

938
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,079
blinking on and off and they were below

939
00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:10,320
below rooftops some of the up

940
00:34:13,270 --> 00:34:11,599
some of the other buildings if you were

941
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,280
on the roof and you were you would be

942
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:15,520
able to look down on the ufo that lenin

943
00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:17,760
saw

944
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,119
so

945
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:21,440
let's see

946
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,470
and then somebody asked me um

947
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,800
about the auto the awesome atip

948
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:32,240
difference in case people don't know

949
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:35,359
assaf was fully funded for 22 million

950
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:37,760
from september 2008 to until december

951
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:39,359
2010

952
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:43,040
and 2009 was you know was this a mistake

953
00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:45,440
you can't 20 hindsight is 2020 but when

954
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:47,599
they requested that special access

955
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:49,679
program for asap that's when the letter

956
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:52,240
got leaked and in that letter is when

957
00:34:58,790 --> 00:34:56,240
they first re came up with the name atip

958
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,800
in his letter to deputy deputy secretary

959
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:00,480
secretary of defense lin so that's where

960
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,480
atip was first mentioned

961
00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:04,560
and then lou

962
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:07,359
took a tip for his smaller effort in the

963
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:10,640
pentagon so there's atip in the letter

964
00:35:15,589 --> 00:35:13,359
which represented asap so folks wouldn't

965
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:15,599
know the asap name and then there's a

966
00:35:20,630 --> 00:35:18,480
tip later on in the in the dod

967
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:20,640
so it's asep

968
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:23,280
atip dia

969
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,440
nickname and then atip

970
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:26,880
dod

971
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:29,760
which lou used so that's hopefully i

972
00:35:33,109 --> 00:35:30,560
didn't

973
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:33,119
butcher that

974
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:34,720
and then

975
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:40,790
so somebody asked me just out of curator

976
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:42,400
curiosity do you think the us government

977
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,920
has studied uap and other secret

978
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:46,160
programs

979
00:35:50,630 --> 00:35:48,160
danny wrote a whole article about other

980
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:50,640
programs i've tweeted about stuff i

981
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:52,079
don't think i've written any articles

982
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,240
although i mean it's in my

983
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:56,640
wilson davis blog obviously

984
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,960
i think if i think we have an intact

985
00:36:02,310 --> 00:36:00,560
craft and a special access program

986
00:36:04,150 --> 00:36:02,320
that's one program

987
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:04,160
um

988
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,800
i said you have the bolander memo after

989
00:36:09,270 --> 00:36:08,480
blue book ended

990
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:09,280
where

991
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:11,680
it said in the memo it said reports of

992
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,520
you this is the end of blue book but

993
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,280
reports of ufos which could affect

994
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:17,760
national security would continue to be

995
00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:19,920
handled through the standard air force

996
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,480
procedures designed for this purpose so

997
00:36:27,270 --> 00:36:24,720
reports were still coming in

998
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:27,280
what exactly was the standard air force

999
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,839
procedure don't know we need to you know

1000
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:31,520
those those reports are probably coming

1001
00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,920
in since way back then you know blue

1002
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:36,240
book ended in 69

1003
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,440
so

1004
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:39,200
we have

1005
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,920
decades and decades so that's 50 years

1006
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:43,839
after blue book ended they still kept

1007
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,160
taking in reports

1008
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:48,480
and then we have

1009
00:36:52,310 --> 00:36:50,480
the rest of the bolander memo says i

1010
00:36:54,550 --> 00:36:52,320
mean even the air force public affairs

1011
00:36:55,510 --> 00:36:54,560
office put out circulars oh no this is

1012
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:55,520
article

1013
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:58,320
for mystery wire hal put off said i mean

1014
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:00,800
he said this this was in vegas and i'm

1015
00:37:05,109 --> 00:37:02,880
missing a tweet that's the problem

1016
00:37:06,829 --> 00:37:05,119
sorry um

1017
00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:06,839
so the second tweet i

1018
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:09,920
said and physicist and long time cia

1019
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,079
contractor dr hal put off says the end

1020
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:14,480
of blue book was not the end of ufo

1021
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,839
programs

1022
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:18,079
quote nonetheless as far as the public

1023
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:20,960
was concerned that was it put off said

1024
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,160
during a 2018 talk in las vegas

1025
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:26,320
he goes i mean even the air force public

1026
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:28,800
affairs office put out circulars all the

1027
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:31,599
time in response to questions saying

1028
00:37:37,270 --> 00:37:33,680
no while we gave up while we gave this

1029
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:38,950
what in fact did occur was that there

1030
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:41,359
were programs going on behind the scenes

1031
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,480
anyway as required by the bollinder memo

1032
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,880
and then i added what other ufo related

1033
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:48,880
programs exist

1034
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:51,040
are there four of them as jeremy corbell

1035
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:52,320
has stated

1036
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,520
haisch an astrophysicist whose website

1037
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:59,200
i think it's still up but it's missing

1038
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:00,880
certain articles but i think giuliano

1039
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:02,960
morenkovich has saved them of course

1040
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,839
because he saves everything important

1041
00:38:09,109 --> 00:38:07,040
he mentions

1042
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:09,119
mentions four other programs

1043
00:38:14,470 --> 00:38:11,920
jacques valet wrote a fictional book

1044
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:14,480
called stratagem uh he mentions four

1045
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:17,280
centers where various ufo efforts went

1046
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,760
and then in wilson davis in the memo it

1047
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:21,040
says

1048
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:22,720
wilson said there were four programs it

1049
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:24,640
wasn't just the one that he went to so

1050
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:26,000
there were four

1051
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,839
so yeah i do think there are other ufo

1052
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:29,520
programs but

1053
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:30,640
you know

1054
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:32,000
i don't have any evidence for that

1055
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,960
except

1056
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,880
these folks saying this

1057
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:37,280
um that's where the good stuff i think

1058
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,880
when eric davis and corbell talk about

1059
00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:40,800
the ufo warehouse that would either be

1060
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,599
part of that or something different

1061
00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:45,680
and i will look at

1062
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,230
yeah some people

1063
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:01,030
don't think that melon's comments were

1064
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,320
as a dig on oscep i do think it was but

1065
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,920
i mean i pulled up another quote from

1066
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,520
him

1067
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:10,160
thanks pics have a good night

1068
00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:12,079
and thanks for the comment um

1069
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:14,000
i put up some audio today from an

1070
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:15,280
interview i think it was april that

1071
00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:17,280
melon did with astronaut former

1072
00:39:20,470 --> 00:39:18,640
astronaut terry

1073
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:20,480
virts and um

1074
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,240
alan talks about the beginning of the

1075
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:24,000
program he doesn't mention asap it's

1076
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:25,440
like you know he knows awesome he goes

1077
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:29,359
well atip um at began harry reid didn't

1078
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,560
really have the

1079
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:31,920
official you know it didn't have any

1080
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:34,000
support in the pentagon well either

1081
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,599
those the current effort too but yeah

1082
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,359
the current effort has has more than

1083
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:39,440
three senators before it was three

1084
00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:41,680
senators now we have more but it's still

1085
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,160
a similar situation anyway i don't want

1086
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:46,640
to focus too much on melon although my

1087
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,880
tweets from today my tweets from today

1088
00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:50,640
did

1089
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:54,000
get back to this a little bit

1090
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:00,790
i don't want to repeat myself too much

1091
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:05,349
one time that

1092
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,920
chris mellon spoke a little bit about

1093
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:09,119
woo

1094
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,880
and it was on glenn beck and i

1095
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:12,960
transcribed it people who did not want

1096
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:15,119
to listen to glenn beck

1097
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:17,599
were happy i did that so this is what

1098
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:21,280
melon said to glenn back he goes

1099
00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:22,560
and this was

1100
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:25,200
for me this is another dig he goes which

1101
00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:28,160
what's encouraging now

1102
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:31,119
as opposed to before awesome

1103
00:40:35,750 --> 00:40:33,520
is that there are some scientists

1104
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:35,760
who work with brandon fugle

1105
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,280
who are using instruments that will

1106
00:40:41,589 --> 00:40:39,440
enable other scientists to replicate

1107
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,599
their findings they're taking a really

1108
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:43,839
scientific approach or trying to so

1109
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:46,079
that's encouraging there does seem to be

1110
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:47,839
some strange activity in the vicinity of

1111
00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:49,040
that ranch and perhaps they'll

1112
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:50,960
contribute to our that'll contribute to

1113
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,160
our understanding of the larger

1114
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,640
phenomenon yes and that's what asap did

1115
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:57,040
they focus mainly not on the ranch but

1116
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:59,599
on the area around the ranch and then

1117
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:02,000
beck says explain strain explain strange

1118
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:03,920
activity what does that mean and melon

1119
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,079
says well so they actually are getting

1120
00:41:10,069 --> 00:41:08,000
videos of objects in the sky they are

1121
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,079
getting high electromagnetic energy

1122
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:12,319
readings microwave readings levels that

1123
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:13,040
are

1124
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:14,720
almost dangerous even very strong

1125
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:17,280
readings on occasion so they are able to

1126
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,040
demonstrate that there are some strange

1127
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:20,960
phenomenon related to unidentified

1128
00:41:24,790 --> 00:41:23,119
aerial phenomenon they had video of

1129
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,800
these objects in some cases lights

1130
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:26,079
coming on in the middle of the night

1131
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:27,520
lighting up the entire lighting up the

1132
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,200
entire side of the mountain various

1133
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:31,440
anomalies along those lines

1134
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,359
and it's credible

1135
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,359
and lou jumps in and says well the local

1136
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:37,760
ute tribe and then melon says well

1137
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,640
that's

1138
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:40,000
what's encouraging is folks are

1139
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,520
documenting this with video and other

1140
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:43,359
sorts of instrumentation so that's why

1141
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:44,800
it's interesting

1142
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,680
and that was going on before and people

1143
00:41:50,870 --> 00:41:49,359
are like the difference is we're getting

1144
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:50,880
to see it more because

1145
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,599
branded hugo is open and and

1146
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,599
robert bigelow was not as open but as

1147
00:42:00,390 --> 00:41:57,680
george knapp said when he wrote hunt for

1148
00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:00,400
the skinwalker bigelow never said by the

1149
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:01,280
way

1150
00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:03,040
george you can't talk about this that

1151
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:04,319
didn't happen

1152
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:05,920
and george knapp said there may be some

1153
00:42:09,030 --> 00:42:07,599
pieces of video maybe that hasn't been

1154
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:09,040
out but they were able to report

1155
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,160
everything

1156
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,440
heard from other people in hunt for the

1157
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,359
skinwalker seeing what skin walkers at

1158
00:42:19,589 --> 00:42:17,520
the pentagon i mean do i want to see all

1159
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:19,599
of the interviews everything that was

1160
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:20,400
done

1161
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,480
uh in skinwa in the asap program of

1162
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,960
course uh the reasoning according to

1163
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:27,040
column kelleher is they have to get rid

1164
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,880
of all the names and personal details

1165
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:30,480
and everything like that because a lot

1166
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:32,240
of people spoke off the record

1167
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:33,280
um

1168
00:42:37,349 --> 00:42:36,000
yeah hire me hire me i'll go in

1169
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:37,359
and make sure there are no personal

1170
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:38,880
details i would love to go through that

1171
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:40,960
material and i'm not i'm not joking

1172
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:42,640
either if they need somebody because

1173
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:43,680
they're like we don't know if we could

1174
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:44,880
find somebody to trust that would be

1175
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:45,839
able to go through all of that

1176
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:48,000
information you know the hipaa standards

1177
00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:49,440
you can't put anything medical out there

1178
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:51,040
with somebody's name and

1179
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:52,319
i'd love to go through all that stuff

1180
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,400
i'd love to read you know transcripts of

1181
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,640
interviews if they transcribe stuff and

1182
00:43:00,550 --> 00:42:58,400
uh keller said in the database they have

1183
00:43:01,430 --> 00:43:00,560
hot links to videos and all that stuff i

1184
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:01,440
mean

1185
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,800
that would be fascinating because i

1186
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,319
would love to know i would love to read

1187
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:06,160
some of the positive cases they had that

1188
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,440
kelleher said they did have some

1189
00:43:10,550 --> 00:43:09,280
positive cases

1190
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:10,560
so

1191
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:17,589
questions there's possibly a possibility

1192
00:43:21,589 --> 00:43:19,359
skimwalker is a true false flag i'm

1193
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:21,599
thinking it's more widespread behind

1194
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:22,880
scenes feels like formation of

1195
00:43:27,190 --> 00:43:25,440
government type control of a crowdsource

1196
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:27,200
i mean it's it's not just skin walker

1197
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:29,119
it's all over it's all over the world

1198
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:31,040
especially in united states there are

1199
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,560
other places that are just like skin

1200
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:34,160
worker we just don't have enough people

1201
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:34,960
to

1202
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,630
that's why danny said

1203
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:45,920
all right this new program is going to

1204
00:43:51,190 --> 00:43:48,880
be bigger than awesome great

1205
00:43:55,030 --> 00:43:51,200
love it i mean hopefully it is

1206
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:55,040
that remains to be seen so we'll see

1207
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:56,480
all right so

1208
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:01,510
let me get back this is gonna

1209
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:04,960
nothing close to being done um

1210
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:07,200
so

1211
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:09,760
in the at the that ufo podcast broke

1212
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:10,800
down

1213
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,440
the ndaa and the gila brand

1214
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:15,599
and the warp bubbles

1215
00:44:21,109 --> 00:44:18,319
it's funny on the warp bubble article

1216
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:21,119
that was put on the debrief

1217
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,560
i've heard

1218
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,960
behind the scenes i've gotten

1219
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:27,119
people to tell me that that's important

1220
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:28,560
check it out and then today i got

1221
00:44:34,829 --> 00:44:30,960
something that says

1222
00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:34,839
it's so it's like you know

1223
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:37,440
uh i'll i read the article and then i

1224
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,200
have another article i was told to read

1225
00:44:48,829 --> 00:44:41,599
which i have not read yet

1226
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,030
this yeah i don't think there's any

1227
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:53,680
dishonesty i just think there's a

1228
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,400
there's a fear from melon and maybe some

1229
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:57,839
other folks that

1230
00:45:01,829 --> 00:45:00,400
if they bring up ossep it's gonna derail

1231
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:01,839
the effort

1232
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:03,520
so

1233
00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,400
um

1234
00:45:07,829 --> 00:45:06,160
so they're careful and i understand that

1235
00:45:10,390 --> 00:45:07,839
they may be thinking the ends justify

1236
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:10,400
their means and that the means mean

1237
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:11,760
right now would be

1238
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:14,160
don't talk about asap and the end would

1239
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:15,040
be

1240
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:16,240
yeah we're going to get this in front of

1241
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:17,680
congress and then we'll go from there

1242
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:19,680
which is it's going to come up so you

1243
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:22,000
know i'm nitpicking a little bit because

1244
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:23,839
once it's in there assuming they're

1245
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:26,160
going to share data with us

1246
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,920
well we'll hear some of these stories

1247
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:29,599
but i'm not i'm not convinced that we're

1248
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:31,440
going to get to hear everything

1249
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:32,720
um

1250
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:38,390
about folks who told me stuff behind the

1251
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,200
scenes i won't even address it because

1252
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,119
i'm stupid enough to say somebody's name

1253
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,119
when i shouldn't say their name

1254
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:47,040
um

1255
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:49,680
let me get rid of this

1256
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:51,440
yeah it's always when you're going live

1257
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,520
when i first went live i'm like you know

1258
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,280
i have sources who have told me stuff

1259
00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:57,359
and if if i see the wrong thing in a

1260
00:46:00,790 --> 00:45:59,440
live stream i'm screwing a source over

1261
00:46:02,230 --> 00:46:00,800
but

1262
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,240
it's just you have to think just for a

1263
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:04,000
second before you before you open your

1264
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,200
mouth

1265
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:07,280
um this is cool from condorman he says

1266
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:09,040
condorman he says

1267
00:46:15,990 --> 00:46:13,200
a friend who's and he works he does work

1268
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:16,000
i forget exactly what he does

1269
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:17,680
let's see does he say no he doesn't

1270
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,160
aerospace engineer so yeah

1271
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:21,680
he's in the biz

1272
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:23,920
um

1273
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:26,160
a friend who's a retired air force intel

1274
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,160
officer told me his office was across

1275
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:30,000
the hallway from blue books

1276
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:31,839
back in the day and after blue book

1277
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,760
ended the same people kept coming to the

1278
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:36,000
same office for years he eventually got

1279
00:46:40,829 --> 00:46:38,000
transferred away but told me the ending

1280
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,839
of blue book was complete

1281
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:43,359
bs which i think we all knew but that's

1282
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,760
a great uh look great anecdote condor

1283
00:46:48,710 --> 00:46:47,920
man is a pretty serious person

1284
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:48,720
um

1285
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,520
and then we had the lou barbecue

1286
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:53,839
which we were joking around um this

1287
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:57,040
might be today

1288
00:47:02,230 --> 00:47:00,480
and people are talking about

1289
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:02,240
findings are kept away from the public

1290
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,680
and i think they're talking about assap

1291
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:07,119
but like i said hopefully one day we can

1292
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,000
get everything funded with

1293
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,400
non-government money and

1294
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,160
with the person in charge being willing

1295
00:47:16,069 --> 00:47:14,560
to share all data

1296
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:16,079
lou has said this isn't a question that

1297
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,599
we should rely on the government to

1298
00:47:21,349 --> 00:47:20,000
answer lou always says he goes yeah

1299
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:21,359
this answer should be out of the

1300
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:23,119
government's hands and i agree and he

1301
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:26,160
agrees with the the one part where i say

1302
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:28,000
we need access to the data though give

1303
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,520
give us all of the government data and

1304
00:47:32,950 --> 00:47:30,880
then we can go off on our own get

1305
00:47:34,549 --> 00:47:32,960
somebody to fund it and do it like that

1306
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,559
i would love to do that i would love to

1307
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,240
work in an office like that

1308
00:47:39,910 --> 00:47:38,400
where that's all they do um

1309
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:39,920
i don't know if i really want to go on

1310
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,000
field trips i'm not local field trips

1311
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:44,400
maybe um

1312
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,920
there's another i don't even get into

1313
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:47,760
that just i do like being where i am

1314
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:50,240
right now in vegas

1315
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,079
uh but for now we have the gila brand

1316
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:54,559
rubio what's going on we take it you

1317
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:55,359
know

1318
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:00,710
and the new endeavor wouldn't be as

1319
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,000
temporary by government standards

1320
00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,559
like i said let's hope astro or whatever

1321
00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:08,480
they call it

1322
00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,640
dwarfs awesome as far as how many people

1323
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,480
are hired and work on it i mean i'd be

1324
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,680
so happy

1325
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:15,520
and then we came up with

1326
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:18,400
the lou elizondo barbecue i forget why i

1327
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,680
don't know how this came up but i said

1328
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:22,000
we can have havana syndrome hot dogs and

1329
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:25,280
tic tac tacos gimbal jar euros go fast

1330
00:48:31,910 --> 00:48:28,160
falafels psy up sliders black triangle

1331
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:31,920
baked turkey nimitz nachos melon ball

1332
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,079
the katsuki lingenberries if you ever

1333
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:36,160
had um

1334
00:48:40,549 --> 00:48:37,760
ikea when you have meatballs they give

1335
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,559
you lingonberries uh nolan knock worst

1336
00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:42,240
kit green chili

1337
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:44,960
nap naan bread indian food which i love

1338
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:48,240
and corbel canyon bubbly

1339
00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:49,440
i don't know where that came from but

1340
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,720
i'm sure i'll come up with some of these

1341
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,040
tweets and then somebody shared their

1342
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,280
letter from their congressperson um

1343
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,000
congresswoman it was kind of a generic

1344
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,400
response about the ndaa like my

1345
00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,720
representative suzy lee sent me a letter

1346
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:05,280
after i called same thing it was generic

1347
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:09,760
about the ndaa nothing about uap

1348
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:16,790
yes that would be a dream job jerry

1349
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:18,160
it seems the wormhole is an important

1350
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,920
simulation breakthrough but not actual

1351
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:21,920
physical wormhole if when i gather i

1352
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:23,359
don't know like that's the science

1353
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:26,240
behind that stuff is so over my head

1354
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:27,280
um

1355
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:29,359
let's see

1356
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,670
christ sable said something which i

1357
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:35,440
really loved it was an interview that

1358
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,040
george knapp did with them which was on

1359
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:39,680
mystery wire it's a great interview he

1360
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,720
said

1361
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:42,960
we've acknowledged to ourselves

1362
00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:45,599
officially that these things ufos are

1363
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,559
real

1364
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:48,559
now we have an obligation to look at

1365
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:50,720
look into what it what that means

1366
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:53,520
and if the search for what that means

1367
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:56,720
leads to having to accept a little woo

1368
00:50:03,910 --> 00:49:59,520
in our lives then i'm sorry

1369
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:06,710
that find that to be too challenging

1370
00:50:09,510 --> 00:50:08,079
ultimately

1371
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,520
they may slow things down at the

1372
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,520
beginning

1373
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,960
i have a new class of friend that

1374
00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:14,400
actually knows a little bit about the

1375
00:50:19,270 --> 00:50:17,119
phenomenon and says boy i just don't

1376
00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:19,280
want to think about it

1377
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:20,720
and he says there will be people in

1378
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:23,280
congress who fall into that category

1379
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:24,800
some of the people in congress will be

1380
00:50:28,470 --> 00:50:26,960
nuts and bolts people and some will be

1381
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,480
woo people

1382
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:30,400
and some people will be

1383
00:50:33,349 --> 00:50:32,400
don't talk to me about that

1384
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,359
people

1385
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:35,280
and that says i remember in studying the

1386
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,680
early days of ufology those guys like

1387
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,760
donald kehoe and others

1388
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,359
they were fine with studying flying

1389
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:43,440
saucers but they were reluctant to say

1390
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:45,280
there might be somebody inside those

1391
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:47,760
flying saucers zipping around

1392
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:50,000
that there might be aliens in there

1393
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:52,000
then years later they were reluctant

1394
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,440
these are ufo people to say those aliens

1395
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:57,440
in the craft are interacting with us

1396
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:00,079
maybe abducting us i mean it's been

1397
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:02,319
tough to even drag ufologists along on

1398
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,520
this trip

1399
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:05,200
um so another thing i think with bud

1400
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:07,200
hopkins who did a lot of abduction

1401
00:51:09,990 --> 00:51:08,400
research and

1402
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:10,000
hypnosis

1403
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:11,839
in the beginning if he had somebody who

1404
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:13,599
said they were abducted more than once

1405
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:15,520
he rejected it because he thought no

1406
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,800
it's just once

1407
00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:18,480
that's not possible you're obviously

1408
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:19,760
lying if you're talking about being

1409
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,520
abducted more than once that's how the

1410
00:51:24,870 --> 00:51:23,119
thinking was in the early days so it's

1411
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:24,880
like it's funny to see how far we've

1412
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:26,000
come and of course there are people who

1413
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:27,440
think abductions

1414
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:28,720
are not

1415
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:32,079
productions you know i know that

1416
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,839
i do think something's going on there

1417
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:35,680
what exactly it is i don't know that's

1418
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:37,119
for another day

1419
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:40,000
i mean there's so many possibilities

1420
00:51:43,349 --> 00:51:41,599
and then a ross coldheart documentary

1421
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:43,359
that air in australia recently that is

1422
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,119
now on youtube

1423
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:47,680
i have to remember to see what

1424
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:49,599
i talk about and what stuff i need to

1425
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:55,670
ufo woo

1426
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:57,030
ufo

1427
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:01,440
i tweeted what i thought was a good

1428
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,630
yeah well i'm sure they would love to

1429
00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,760
avoid it

1430
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:11,599
i would make i would love for it to be a

1431
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:14,000
simple explanation but it's not going to

1432
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:15,119
be

1433
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:18,319
and then this is david haye saying that

1434
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,559
nick cook

1435
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,559
who wrote

1436
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,319
hunt for zero point and he's written

1437
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:26,079
some other books related to ingo swan

1438
00:52:30,069 --> 00:52:28,079
and some

1439
00:52:31,990 --> 00:52:30,079
novels recently

1440
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:32,000
he re he won one of the prizes in the

1441
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:34,960
bigelow life after death essay contest

1442
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:36,800
and he did an interview that david

1443
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:38,960
linked to i'm not sure who conducted the

1444
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:42,960
interview i have not checked it out yet

1445
00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:46,160
and we have

1446
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:49,680
tim mcmillan wrote an article for

1447
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:51,599
the washington examiner which is usually

1448
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,040
tom rogan's

1449
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:55,119
beat he does ufo articles for them and

1450
00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:57,920
he said tim said uap itself may not be a

1451
00:53:02,710 --> 00:52:59,839
severe national security problem and i

1452
00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:02,720
said he's right it may not be or it may

1453
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:04,960
be we we still don't know

1454
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:07,839
and today people were like listen

1455
00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:09,440
if they would have invaded us if they

1456
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:11,520
wanted to invade us or take over they

1457
00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:12,720
would have done it by now and that's

1458
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:14,000
like the worst thing to say to me i'm

1459
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:14,800
like

1460
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:17,280
i have no idea what their timetable is i

1461
00:53:20,549 --> 00:53:18,640
don't know what they're here for i don't

1462
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:20,559
know who they are i mean i don't think

1463
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:22,000
of invasion when i think of this

1464
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:23,760
although there's some people that do

1465
00:53:27,670 --> 00:53:26,160
like david jacobs but i just i just

1466
00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:27,680
don't think there's

1467
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:30,400
there's any evidence to say either way

1468
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:32,319
what they're up to

1469
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:34,160
and i say in fact you know this may be a

1470
00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:36,079
problem for all of humanity people

1471
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,839
suggest maybe they've manipulated us

1472
00:53:41,349 --> 00:53:39,119
over the years and

1473
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:41,359
that's why society is the way it is and

1474
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,440
people are like no that's because of

1475
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:45,680
humans or greedy it's not because of ets

1476
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,720
or non-humans maybe maybe not i mean i'm

1477
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,119
i'm definitely open to

1478
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:53,440
there being some manipulation over the

1479
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:54,839
years

1480
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:57,280
um i know

1481
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:00,319
gary nolan which i was surprised a few a

1482
00:54:04,309 --> 00:54:02,240
few weeks ago he said maybe they just

1483
00:54:06,710 --> 00:54:04,319
just just appearing in our skies i mean

1484
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:06,720
that has an influence on us because i

1485
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:07,680
brought up

1486
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:10,559
directed panspermia where

1487
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,520
you know

1488
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,599
panspermia is when something comes off

1489
00:54:17,430 --> 00:54:15,440
you know the building blocks of life

1490
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:17,440
will come off of a comet a comet crashes

1491
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,760
you know life spurts you know

1492
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:22,079
life pops up but directed panspermia

1493
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:24,640
would be that they they guide somebody

1494
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:26,960
guides a comet as an example into our

1495
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:28,880
planet and then it crashes and then life

1496
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:32,160
spreads it was directed here um

1497
00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:34,640
but we don't know either way good or bad

1498
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:37,599
the intentions of whatever is here

1499
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:39,280
and then tim wrote the real national

1500
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,559
security problem is that the us

1501
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,000
government couldn't solve the uap

1502
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:44,079
mystery right now even if it wanted to i

1503
00:54:48,549 --> 00:54:47,280
agree dysfunction um

1504
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:48,559
but like i said

1505
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,000
at least if we can get the data that

1506
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,640
they've collected over the past 70 years

1507
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:54,319
if we can ever get access to that data

1508
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,359
at least we might say you know what

1509
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,520
we have a clue now what's going on just

1510
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:01,680
a little clue maybe because i think

1511
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:03,040
there are people in those programs that

1512
00:55:06,789 --> 00:55:05,280
do have an idea of what we're dealing

1513
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,799
with but

1514
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:08,799
probably not the whole story probably

1515
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:12,000
nobody knows the whole story

1516
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:16,240
so let's see let's see let's see

1517
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:17,920
and i said yeah people say if they

1518
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,440
wanted to destroy us i just hate the

1519
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:21,280
argument

1520
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:26,950
this person j raza says maybe time flows

1521
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:29,599
differently for whoever is here

1522
00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,280
um and it's really hard to figure out

1523
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,079
your intentions based on the calm we see

1524
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:36,079
in their overt behavior today as eric

1525
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:37,599
davis says

1526
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:39,599
whatever their intentions are we don't

1527
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:40,319
know because they don't want to

1528
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:42,400
communicate to us you know maybe there's

1529
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:44,000
a reason you could say because of

1530
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:45,599
non-interference you know the prime

1531
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:46,720
directive that's why they don't

1532
00:55:52,309 --> 00:55:49,440
communicate maybe maybe not

1533
00:55:57,030 --> 00:55:54,150
we need to figure this out as a species

1534
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:57,040
that's why maybe one day when we're not

1535
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,319
battling for you know supremacy and

1536
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:02,480
battling russia and china we'll figure

1537
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,880
this out together of course tom tom

1538
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:06,720
delong says we've been working with them

1539
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,480
for a long time

1540
00:56:12,309 --> 00:56:10,160
on this problem behind the scenes and

1541
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:12,319
the cold war was a farce and

1542
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:13,520
you know

1543
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:14,720
i remember i was reading john

1544
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:16,960
alexander's book where he mentions that

1545
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:17,920
he says

1546
00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:20,000
that is not true he wasn't quoting de

1547
00:56:23,270 --> 00:56:21,359
long was there there are other people

1548
00:56:24,710 --> 00:56:23,280
who have said that over the years

1549
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,720
um

1550
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:26,240
and i'm like have they been manipulating

1551
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:27,760
humanity for their own purposes since

1552
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,119
the beginning

1553
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,960
we need to keep that possibility on the

1554
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:33,119
table and if it's true figure out how to

1555
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:34,319
deal with it

1556
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:35,920
somebody said how do we deal with that

1557
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:37,359
how would we even deal with that i'm

1558
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,799
like i don't know depends on how they're

1559
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:39,839
doing it

1560
00:56:44,549 --> 00:56:42,160
you know are they using psychotronic

1561
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,559
weapons to boost whatever abilities they

1562
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:45,520
have

1563
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:49,510
so

1564
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:51,040
i said

1565
00:56:53,829 --> 00:56:52,480
somebody said

1566
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:53,839
they did read

1567
00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:56,960
melon shot melons comments as a shot at

1568
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,880
ossep

1569
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:00,880
and he he senses there's some tension

1570
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:03,359
between the atip folks and the ossep

1571
00:57:07,430 --> 00:57:05,280
folks

1572
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:07,440
yeah you know i i sense that too when

1573
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:10,160
you read some of the comments made

1574
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:12,319
and i said maybe there's some tension

1575
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:14,000
skin and walkers and people and he's

1576
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,520
like why wasn't

1577
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:17,359
a tip mentioned in the book and i'm like

1578
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:19,280
well skinwalkers is about awesome it's

1579
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:21,200
not about atip so that's why it was

1580
00:57:26,230 --> 00:57:23,119
focused on the two years

1581
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:29,750
and um lecatsky said in the interview

1582
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:31,920
i think it was with george knapp he did

1583
00:57:35,109 --> 00:57:33,200
two interviews with caskey he did

1584
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:35,119
mystery wire and he did coast to coast i

1585
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,880
transcribed all of that's transcribed on

1586
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:38,160
my blog

1587
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,640
likkatsky said etip in the pentagon as

1588
00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:42,400
described in the articles was basically

1589
00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:44,000
zero funded

1590
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:45,920
it looked at specific military ufo

1591
00:57:53,750 --> 00:57:51,270
and

1592
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:53,760
very important ones because they had

1593
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:55,280
film and it had

1594
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,559
no contract

1595
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:58,160
so getting back to how how did the

1596
00:58:01,910 --> 00:57:59,520
mix-up occur and he's talking about the

1597
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:01,920
mix-up of the articles where they say

1598
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:04,400
um eighth was the one who got the 22

1599
00:58:08,390 --> 00:58:06,720
million dollars he said i think it's not

1600
00:58:11,349 --> 00:58:08,400
deliberate it's not due to the authors

1601
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:11,359
to pers it's not due to tv personalities

1602
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,119
it's the fact that we were running not

1603
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:15,119
an official special not an official

1604
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:17,520
special access program but a closed

1605
00:58:21,829 --> 00:58:19,119
program i can tell you for a fact that

1606
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:21,839
within my own office they did not know

1607
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:23,599
except for leadership

1608
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:25,760
that this contract was being run they

1609
00:58:31,510 --> 00:58:28,400
had no idea whatsoever our security was

1610
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,390
so

1611
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,720
anyway

1612
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,880
that is that and i will take a look see

1613
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:38,400
if you guys

1614
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:40,400
have any questions if people are still

1615
00:58:43,270 --> 00:58:42,240
awake

1616
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:43,280
um

1617
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,670
see

1618
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:52,789
the concept of a primer report is a sri

1619
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:54,240
international term are you interested in

1620
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,030
source of the leak of the century i mean

1621
00:59:04,870 --> 00:59:02,960
yeah

1622
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:04,880
tag me on tw i don't know if you're on

1623
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:05,839
twitter

1624
00:59:09,990 --> 00:59:07,200
um

1625
00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:10,000
the email which i never check

1626
00:59:15,190 --> 00:59:12,559
ufo joe well i can pull it up over here

1627
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:15,200
if you want to if you want to email me

1628
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:16,960
just make a note i was you know in the

1629
00:59:23,030 --> 00:59:19,920
subject that you were on youtube

1630
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:23,040
my email is this is the paypal email but

1631
00:59:31,670 --> 00:59:29,990
is that so definitely send that to me

1632
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:31,680
i'm really bad at getting back to people

1633
00:59:34,230 --> 00:59:32,559
though

1634
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:34,240
because i'm just trying to keep up with

1635
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:35,839
everything between the blog trying to

1636
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,359
get the blog updated which i've been

1637
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:39,280
successful lately

1638
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,520
and then i'm on twitter all the time so

1639
00:59:44,789 --> 00:59:43,440
it's just hard to keep up with stuff

1640
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:44,799
i'm doing an interview with somebody

1641
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:47,520
tomorrow one of my patrons has a show

1642
00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:48,960
i'm doing tomorrow morning but it's

1643
00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:51,359
recorded so it's not live

1644
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:53,920
so vern says and vern vern has followed

1645
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:55,599
me then not followed me he's gotten

1646
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:57,359
annoyed at me over the years the last

1647
01:00:00,870 --> 00:59:58,799
couple of years he's back to following

1648
01:00:02,470 --> 01:00:00,880
me i think we're on the same page

1649
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:02,480
um

1650
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:03,839
and i'm not looking at comments right

1651
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:12,309
i'm still on aol so is how put off so is

1652
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:15,119
jacques valet i'm in good company i know

1653
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,960
hey while still exists i think if you

1654
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:18,960
make the phone call to the aol desk

1655
01:00:22,150 --> 01:00:20,480
nobody answers

1656
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:22,160
it's like the old uh

1657
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,920
the weird desk that you have that kit

1658
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:25,440
green ran

1659
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:26,960
um

1660
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:29,839
there's no there's no really

1661
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:31,040
comparison i don't know what the hell

1662
01:00:35,030 --> 01:00:32,319
i'm talking about because i'm getting

1663
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:35,040
tired anyway vern says in the short term

1664
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:36,960
and looking at present actions we

1665
01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:39,440
actions we cannot see a thread

1666
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:41,440
long term they are a major threat in

1667
01:00:46,870 --> 01:00:44,000
implementing changes slowly so we don't

1668
01:00:49,349 --> 01:00:46,880
notice in our forever changed without a

1669
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:49,359
clue what happened and then he adds

1670
01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:51,200
maybe because i'm like yeah maybe i've

1671
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:53,040
thought about that the gods of eden if

1672
01:00:56,870 --> 01:00:54,480
you've read that book

1673
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:56,880
um

1674
01:01:00,630 --> 01:00:58,640
it's actually stronger than that the

1675
01:01:02,230 --> 01:01:00,640
gods of eden um

1676
01:01:03,990 --> 01:01:02,240
william bramley you could find some of

1677
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:04,000
his interviews online

1678
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:05,920
whoever these beings are they've shaped

1679
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:10,710
yeah we wouldn't even notice if they did

1680
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,160
it over a long period of time so i'm

1681
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:16,799
i'm so hesitant to say i lean in one

1682
01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:18,240
direction because

1683
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:19,920
the next day i might say something

1684
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:21,280
different i know there are people have

1685
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:23,040
such different views than me you see

1686
01:01:26,789 --> 01:01:24,880
some of the quotes

1687
01:01:29,430 --> 01:01:26,799
talking about the free survey where they

1688
01:01:31,670 --> 01:01:29,440
surveyed a few thousand experiences and

1689
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:31,680
most of them had a positive experience

1690
01:01:35,589 --> 01:01:32,960
and then there are people who said well

1691
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,599
i gave them my experience it was not

1692
01:01:38,870 --> 01:01:36,960
positive it was negative and they

1693
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:38,880
rejected me so i mean how good is their

1694
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:41,520
data i don't know

1695
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:42,400
um

1696
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:44,640
and when danny said

1697
01:01:50,309 --> 01:01:47,440
any silva said if awsap was little

1698
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:50,319
compared to the programs we will receive

1699
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:52,480
if asap was little compared to the

1700
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:54,720
programs we will receive from the new

1701
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:57,680
government directives i will be ecstatic

1702
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:00,559
imagine a transparent ufo program with

1703
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:03,280
much more than 50 people assap had

1704
01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:05,599
working for it mr mellon seems to say

1705
01:02:08,870 --> 01:02:08,079
here that it's going to happen awesome

1706
01:02:10,549 --> 01:02:08,880
and i

1707
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,559
i agree that's

1708
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,720
awesome awesome awesome and i went back

1709
01:02:16,150 --> 01:02:14,640
over to what kelleher said to me

1710
01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:16,160
um

1711
01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:22,069
and then

1712
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:24,470
let's see this is this is what

1713
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:26,000
keller has said

1714
01:02:29,510 --> 01:02:27,680
to me when i interviewed nap and keller

1715
01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:29,520
her he said one of the reasons for

1716
01:02:33,670 --> 01:02:31,520
getting information in the skinwalkers

1717
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,680
at the pentagon book out was that we

1718
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:35,760
wanted to correct a record and show that

1719
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:39,200
also awesapp was probably the broadest

1720
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:40,240
scope

1721
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:42,880
largest ufo program ever conducted by

1722
01:02:47,190 --> 01:02:44,960
the united states government and

1723
01:02:49,029 --> 01:02:47,200
certainly if you compare it against

1724
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,039
project sign

1725
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:51,359
grudge and blue book that's probably

1726
01:02:55,270 --> 01:02:53,359
accurate so the main motivation for

1727
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,280
doing that was to show people that oscep

1728
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:57,520
was a very successful program

1729
01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:00,319
but it had massive scope

1730
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:02,240
so i get really annoyed when people try

1731
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:04,559
to just ignore ossep how do you ignore

1732
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,039
that program i mean i get you don't want

1733
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:09,359
to talk woo but there are ways to talk

1734
01:03:13,029 --> 01:03:10,720
about asap

1735
01:03:15,190 --> 01:03:13,039
and not go into details you can talk

1736
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:15,200
just about human effects you know health

1737
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:16,799
effects you don't have to talk about

1738
01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:18,240
poltergeist

1739
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:20,160
so yeah i definitely it's like i take it

1740
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:21,359
personally even though i didn't write

1741
01:03:27,990 --> 01:03:26,390
but i followed that story as danny did

1742
01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:28,000
in other folks when george knapp started

1743
01:03:31,589 --> 01:03:30,160
talking about it in 2019 when i was at

1744
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:31,599
the

1745
01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:36,400
that started talking about i'm like this

1746
01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:38,640
has to be transcribed which it is on my

1747
01:03:43,109 --> 01:03:40,720
on my site um

1748
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:43,119
there are two interviews on on youtube

1749
01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:46,319
lu for gq magazine 1.2 million views and

1750
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:49,200
then lou washington post 2 million views

1751
01:03:53,029 --> 01:03:51,200
somebody said that when you type in ufo

1752
01:03:54,390 --> 01:03:53,039
that washington post

1753
01:03:56,630 --> 01:03:54,400
interview comes up which i think is

1754
01:03:59,029 --> 01:03:56,640
right because it always pops up for me

1755
01:04:01,829 --> 01:03:59,039
so yeah that's great exposure

1756
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:01,839
um and then ross culthart's documentary

1757
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:03,599
is now up and you can link to it i have

1758
01:04:06,950 --> 01:04:05,440
not watched it yet i know they said it's

1759
01:04:08,870 --> 01:04:06,960
a lot of the same from the first one but

1760
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,880
there's some new information with one of

1761
01:04:12,549 --> 01:04:10,559
the new witnesses from west hall who

1762
01:04:14,710 --> 01:04:12,559
said that she was told

1763
01:04:16,470 --> 01:04:14,720
it was a it was americans who came to

1764
01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:16,480
interview her and they told her it was i

1765
01:04:20,069 --> 01:04:17,920
think they said it was a balloon and she

1766
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:20,079
was like even at 12 i didn't think that

1767
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:22,400
what i saw was a balloon um but that's

1768
01:04:25,670 --> 01:04:23,520
what they told her so they tried to

1769
01:04:27,109 --> 01:04:25,680
mislead her according to her

1770
01:04:28,470 --> 01:04:27,119
and then people say

1771
01:04:30,549 --> 01:04:28,480
important to remember as a human

1772
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:30,559
civilization kim henderson says as the

1773
01:04:33,829 --> 01:04:32,400
woo knowledge becomes known it becomes

1774
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:33,839
imperative that each member of our

1775
01:04:37,990 --> 01:04:36,880
society continue on as normal don't

1776
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,000
freak out

1777
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:40,400
continue going you're going to your job

1778
01:04:45,270 --> 01:04:43,039
and perform your normal daily tasks

1779
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,280
we want societal we don't want societal

1780
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:47,520
breakdown it's like

1781
01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:49,599
yeah well it depends on what kind of

1782
01:04:53,190 --> 01:04:51,359
wool you're who you're talking about if

1783
01:04:54,870 --> 01:04:53,200
we learn that all of us have psychic

1784
01:04:57,109 --> 01:04:54,880
abilities i don't think humanity or

1785
01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:57,119
society is going to fall apart but if

1786
01:05:00,549 --> 01:04:58,799
somebody comes out and says um there

1787
01:05:02,950 --> 01:05:00,559
have been these intelligence who have

1788
01:05:04,870 --> 01:05:02,960
been coming here since before humans and

1789
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:04,880
if you have close contact with them

1790
01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:06,880
which if you know if they want to have

1791
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:08,880
close contact with you they can anytime

1792
01:05:13,029 --> 01:05:11,200
they want and if you do you're going to

1793
01:05:15,190 --> 01:05:13,039
start having poltergeists and shadow

1794
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:15,200
beings in your home then yeah if that

1795
01:05:19,109 --> 01:05:17,440
was able to be proven i think

1796
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:19,119
people probably wouldn't want to go to

1797
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:21,280
work the next day who knows i don't know

1798
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:23,839
how people would would react to that

1799
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,880
um

1800
01:05:29,109 --> 01:05:26,720
napa said the same thing depends on what

1801
01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:29,119
disclosure full disclosure means

1802
01:05:35,190 --> 01:05:31,200
as far as how can people or will people

1803
01:05:39,029 --> 01:05:37,190
and we get into the free survey before i

1804
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:39,039
get there

1805
01:05:42,710 --> 01:05:41,920
victor oh victor perfect timing

1806
01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:42,720
um

1807
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:46,079
the to free the free experience

1808
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:47,520
when we were talking about it victor

1809
01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:49,039
jumped in because

1810
01:05:53,589 --> 01:05:50,319
i don't know free if

1811
01:05:55,510 --> 01:05:53,599
victor if you know how many people

1812
01:05:57,510 --> 01:05:55,520
and i would link and i would link to you

1813
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:57,520
right now and say come on but

1814
01:06:02,950 --> 01:05:59,200
i'm too tired to

1815
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:02,960
to keep going for too much long um

1816
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:05,440
gods of eden it's been a long time jerry

1817
01:06:15,990 --> 01:06:14,069
your stream jumped back 20 minutes that

1818
01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:16,000
might be because of

1819
01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:18,960
my gravitational effect i have when i do

1820
01:06:23,829 --> 01:06:21,200
these things i'm only kidding

1821
01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:25,829
ross you gotta remember though

1822
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:27,839
a lot of people get a lot of stuff sent

1823
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:29,440
to them and it gets overwhelming at

1824
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:30,720
times and you just don't get to

1825
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,270
let's see

1826
01:06:42,309 --> 01:06:39,190
yeah so victor was one of the people who

1827
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:42,319
sent something to ray hernandez who

1828
01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:44,160
i guess ray is in charge of the of the

1829
01:06:49,109 --> 01:06:46,480
of the um survey and a few thousand

1830
01:06:50,470 --> 01:06:49,119
folks of experiences

1831
01:06:54,549 --> 01:06:50,480
and i'll get to that in a second of my

1832
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:56,630
yeah i agree it's not the new office and

1833
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:58,799
i hope to change that name but i don't

1834
01:07:02,390 --> 01:07:00,160
really honestly i don't care what the

1835
01:07:05,190 --> 01:07:02,400
name is um

1836
01:07:07,829 --> 01:07:05,200
it's as long as yeah as long as as long

1837
01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:07,839
as there's oversight it doesn't matter

1838
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:09,119
if they can

1839
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:11,280
stay on top of whatever the new if it's

1840
01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:13,440
in the office under secretary of

1841
01:07:17,430 --> 01:07:15,440
defense for intelligence i mean as long

1842
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:17,440
as there's oversight make sure they're

1843
01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:19,680
doing their job and they're open and

1844
01:07:26,829 --> 01:07:21,680
they're getting information and data is

1845
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:28,710
um

1846
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:31,599
uap dog said did ttsa tried to buy the

1847
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:33,119
free experience of survey from ray

1848
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:34,880
hernandez and then

1849
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:37,680
james iandoli said yes ray hernandez

1850
01:07:40,950 --> 01:07:39,599
says yes and then we talked about that

1851
01:07:43,589 --> 01:07:40,960
early on

1852
01:07:45,349 --> 01:07:43,599
and then i insulted wild bill who said

1853
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:45,359
he reads my blog so i felt bad about

1854
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:48,160
that he said assap was woo program given

1855
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:50,319
to a private contractor 99 of the public

1856
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:52,160
knows nothing about it i agree with that

1857
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:52,960
part

1858
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:54,160
um

1859
01:07:57,430 --> 01:07:55,599
and it didn't accomplish anything other

1860
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:57,440
than papers

1861
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:58,799
now we actually have a chance to get

1862
01:08:02,150 --> 01:08:00,720
stuff done um yeah it was more than

1863
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:02,160
papers the papers i think he's talking

1864
01:08:07,109 --> 01:08:04,880
about are the the 38 dirds defense

1865
01:08:08,390 --> 01:08:07,119
intelligence research documents um

1866
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,400
basically

1867
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,000
most of the papers were over my head

1868
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:11,920
eric davis was involved in thinking five

1869
01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:13,680
of those papers but

1870
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:15,599
the the other stuff they did we don't

1871
01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:17,839
know we don't have it so

1872
01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:19,520
um according to if you read the book

1873
01:08:23,829 --> 01:08:22,000
it's some really important data the data

1874
01:08:25,829 --> 01:08:23,839
warehouse they have that valet was in

1875
01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:25,839
charge of very important if we get that

1876
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:27,759
database there's no reason why we should

1877
01:08:33,590 --> 01:08:30,799
not have that database

1878
01:08:35,430 --> 01:08:33,600
when somebody said something about

1879
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:35,440
them not being a threat or something and

1880
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:37,120
they deleted their tweet but i basically

1881
01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:39,199
said in some cases whatever we're

1882
01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:41,040
dealing with it's a danger to human

1883
01:08:45,829 --> 01:08:43,520
health sometimes people get injured and

1884
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:45,839
it may not be intentional on behalf of

1885
01:08:49,349 --> 01:08:47,759
the intelligence but they may just they

1886
01:08:51,430 --> 01:08:49,359
may just not give it a second thought

1887
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:51,440
like we don't we've talked about you

1888
01:08:55,269 --> 01:08:53,839
step on an ant hill you're like oh

1889
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:55,279
if you don't think about it the rest of

1890
01:08:57,910 --> 01:08:56,640
the day you know it's a lower

1891
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:57,920
intelligence

1892
01:09:01,269 --> 01:08:59,600
um i'm not saying they think of us as

1893
01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:01,279
ants but you know what i mean that kind

1894
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:03,120
of analogy

1895
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:05,120
nobody i know who i've ever spoken to

1896
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:07,199
has any idea what they are

1897
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:10,239
where they're from or what they want

1898
01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:13,120
if anything with us um although one

1899
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:16,719
person did give me an idea of

1900
01:09:22,309 --> 01:09:19,440
et interdimensional time travel that

1901
01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:24,789
didn't offer up any evidence

1902
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,120
and then linda thompson got a reply from

1903
01:09:31,189 --> 01:09:29,120
mark warner about the ndaa but it was

1904
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:31,199
not specific to uap

1905
01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:35,279
kind of like a form letter like i got

1906
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:36,799
oh

1907
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:38,159
and then

1908
01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:40,400
bryce just promoting douglas johnson's

1909
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:41,679
article if you haven't read it it's a

1910
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:43,839
great read i read it the other day

1911
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:49,030
and he says conventional journalists

1912
01:09:53,669 --> 01:09:52,000
working and bryce got his start at cnn

1913
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,679
um he says conventional journalists

1914
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:55,760
working in the legacy news business need

1915
01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:57,840
to level up get their acts together and

1916
01:10:01,830 --> 01:09:59,360
start reporting it's time to tell the

1917
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:01,840
story exactly and

1918
01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:04,719
if you ever if you're a reporter

1919
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:07,040
you need to tell the osap story

1920
01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:08,960
you're not concerned about upsetting

1921
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:11,040
congress if you're a reporter you're not

1922
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:12,719
upset you're not worried about scaring

1923
01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:14,880
off congress oh i don't want to report

1924
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:16,400
on something and then congress changes

1925
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:17,600
their mind because i mentioned

1926
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:20,960
poltergeist if you're a reporter you do

1927
01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:22,719
a story in awsap and you talk to

1928
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:24,640
everybody involved you need to tell the

1929
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:27,040
story of what people reported i'm sorry

1930
01:10:30,870 --> 01:10:28,800
that's why when i see i'm sorry but when

1931
01:10:32,870 --> 01:10:30,880
i see tim mcmillan not talk about assap

1932
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:32,880
and none of the details it's like tim if

1933
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:35,360
you're a journalist you need to report

1934
01:10:39,270 --> 01:10:37,760
about that i have not seen any reporting

1935
01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:39,280
on that book from tim

1936
01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:41,840
or from the debrief the only reporting i

1937
01:10:46,550 --> 01:10:44,400
saw was shots taken by mj banayas and i

1938
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,560
i don't understand if you're an unbiased

1939
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:48,719
reporter or media outlet or trying to be

1940
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:50,560
one how you don't report on that it

1941
01:10:55,030 --> 01:10:53,040
really baffles me i don't get it

1942
01:10:57,189 --> 01:10:55,040
you should not be trying to make you

1943
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:57,199
know you should not be trying to avoid

1944
01:11:01,510 --> 01:11:00,159
upsetting whatever people you're working

1945
01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:01,520
with

1946
01:11:05,669 --> 01:11:04,159
that's just me you know

1947
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:05,679
my live stream

1948
01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:09,199
and from the other day where james said

1949
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:10,880
if you missed it he said

1950
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:14,480
calm he said um colin kelleher told him

1951
01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,600
that dr gary nolan and my associates

1952
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:19,840
have made many new discoveries i am

1953
01:11:24,550 --> 01:11:21,920
retired from the media but still search

1954
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,560
for the truth one day soon

1955
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:26,480
teamed up with nasa

1956
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:28,320
much will be revealed

1957
01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:30,080
i don't know what that means i don't

1958
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:32,000
know what nasa is up to but

1959
01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:35,120
i want to find out that was james andoli

1960
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:36,800
dropping that little bombshell the other

1961
01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:41,040
day um from column kelleher to him

1962
01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:43,920
and then we get into bashing

1963
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:53,510
take it easy jerry

1964
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,480
and yeah

1965
01:12:02,070 --> 01:11:56,880
they look at us

1966
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:02,080
i mean like who was it um charles fort

1967
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:04,800
said they consider us

1968
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:07,360
their property that's possible i mean i

1969
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:09,040
think most of us can handle that because

1970
01:12:13,590 --> 01:12:10,239
we've been

1971
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:13,600
talking about this stuff for so long but

1972
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:15,760
you know it wouldn't be great to hear

1973
01:12:19,270 --> 01:12:17,520
that but wouldn't be shocking if there's

1974
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:19,280
somebody above us on the food chain

1975
01:12:22,790 --> 01:12:21,440
intelligence wise too we're not ants

1976
01:12:24,950 --> 01:12:22,800
we're probably more like dogs or

1977
01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:24,960
dolphins to them very that's that's a

1978
01:12:29,350 --> 01:12:27,040
good analogy dolphins is a good one we

1979
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:29,360
still eat dolphin right we eat uh

1980
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:31,360
well mahi mahi is cousin the dolphin

1981
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:32,560
right i think

1982
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:35,520
i'd like mahi mahi

1983
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:37,040
intelligent but not able to have a

1984
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:39,040
meaningful conversation that's very

1985
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:40,239
possible

1986
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:42,159
i'm still not convinced when people see

1987
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,640
grays and reptilians or mantids that

1988
01:12:48,630 --> 01:12:46,480
that is actually what the intelligence

1989
01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:48,640
is i've made that

1990
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:51,199
argument before that maybe

1991
01:12:54,950 --> 01:12:53,199
that's just a form it takes um for

1992
01:12:56,070 --> 01:12:54,960
whatever reason but it's not really the

1993
01:12:59,590 --> 01:12:56,080
true

1994
01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:59,600
intelligence is but that's assuming

1995
01:13:02,830 --> 01:13:00,960
there's one intelligence there could be

1996
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:02,840
so many different things we're dealing

1997
01:13:10,149 --> 01:13:06,719
with i really don't know um

1998
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:12,630
what else do we have oh this is great if

1999
01:13:17,110 --> 01:13:14,640
you guys haven't seen this it's an old

2000
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:17,120
book i'm not sure what the date is

2001
01:13:21,110 --> 01:13:19,360
that jessica came across and she goes

2002
01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:21,120
what does it look like

2003
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:23,280
i can pull it up bigger

2004
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:26,800
i'm looking at my that is lou

2005
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:28,880
elizondo

2006
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:30,080
written by

2007
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:32,640
brigham youngin i mean written it was

2008
01:13:37,270 --> 01:13:34,320
bringing young in his mormon empire

2009
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:37,280
written by frank j cannon and george l

2010
01:13:41,669 --> 01:13:39,600
knapp i mean how great is that

2011
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:41,679
lou and george knapp are time travelers

2012
01:13:45,510 --> 01:13:43,360
there is the proof

2013
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:45,520
um that was hilarious and then other

2014
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:47,280
people started

2015
01:13:50,070 --> 01:13:48,640
you got to see some of this stuff i'll

2016
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:50,080
get some of the i'll get to the comments

2017
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:53,360
but then other people started tweeting

2018
01:13:58,229 --> 01:13:55,840
their own lookalikes and then we have

2019
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:58,239
this is one of my favorite things

2020
01:14:01,669 --> 01:13:59,840
how many paul reddington makes these

2021
01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:01,679
graphics up and it's just i love the

2022
01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:02,880
colors

2023
01:14:07,430 --> 01:14:05,679
eric davis with the love necklace

2024
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,440
and i know paul is a big fan of eric's

2025
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:10,000
as i am and as a lot of people are and

2026
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:11,600
i just don't put up with the comments

2027
01:14:16,390 --> 01:14:13,600
some of the people call him a liar and i

2028
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:16,400
mean you guys have seen some of that

2029
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:23,510
some of the other lou

2030
01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:25,760
somebody did this for lou

2031
01:14:29,590 --> 01:14:28,159
lou decided not to comment i wish i had

2032
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:29,600
the skills to be able to do something so

2033
01:14:34,790 --> 01:14:31,360
quick i mean he's got there's lou

2034
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:34,800
working in a taco joint

2035
01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:36,320
i love the look-alikes i've done that

2036
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:37,440
kind of thing when i go out see

2037
01:14:40,229 --> 01:14:39,040
look-alikes some of them can be really

2038
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:40,239
good

2039
01:14:45,470 --> 01:14:43,280
and then it's somber i pull up a samba

2040
01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:45,480
there's one more though

2041
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:48,239
[Laughter]

2042
01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:50,640
is the bunny oh my god

2043
01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:52,080
see look you didn't you didn't think

2044
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:53,360
you'd have entertainment tonight but

2045
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,760
that all of these made me laugh

2046
01:15:00,709 --> 01:14:57,679
i came up with an idea for a remember

2047
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:00,719
the sea and say toy um you would spin it

2048
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,040
and would say the cow says moo and i'm

2049
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:04,800
like we should come up with a cow you

2050
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:08,560
spin it it's called mu elizondo um

2051
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:10,480
but i never i never followed through and

2052
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:14,560
made the sea and say moo elazondo

2053
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:17,280
uh let's see christian theology

2054
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:20,000
uh dolan interviewed this guy um i did

2055
01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:26,790
rey's just like any ex or the any other

2056
01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:28,719
experiencer changed his life it shaped

2057
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:30,080
his world and he had a positive for

2058
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:31,679
people who don't know

2059
01:15:36,630 --> 01:15:34,239
it healed his it healed his dog the dog

2060
01:15:39,590 --> 01:15:36,640
was on its last legs about to die and

2061
01:15:41,270 --> 01:15:39,600
then the experience happened and the dog

2062
01:15:45,030 --> 01:15:41,280
was basically lived for a couple more

2063
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,470
i think his wife said they were

2064
01:15:54,070 --> 01:15:50,950
angels and he was saying yeah i don't

2065
01:15:55,590 --> 01:15:54,080
know what they are i think i'm not sure

2066
01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:55,600
um

2067
01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,880
an intelligent being who drives an

2068
01:16:00,900 --> 01:15:58,719
automobile i sometimes drive through my

2069
01:16:02,470 --> 01:16:00,910
neighbor's homes rather than around them

2070
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:02,480
[Laughter]

2071
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:04,480
that's funny

2072
01:16:09,350 --> 01:16:07,840
all right um

2073
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:09,360
rey is just was just not open to a

2074
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:10,800
negative or rather anything that wasn't

2075
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:14,480
seen as angelic or space brother ask

2076
01:16:17,590 --> 01:16:15,920
yeah um

2077
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:17,600
i tried to engage with him on facebook

2078
01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:19,600
maybe he didn't see my my messages it's

2079
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:21,280
not like i've been badgering him it's

2080
01:16:25,270 --> 01:16:23,040
just been a couple of comments

2081
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:25,280
i don't remember what it was about

2082
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:27,600
um lou the bunny has the goatee down i

2083
01:16:31,270 --> 01:16:28,800
know that was

2084
01:16:33,910 --> 01:16:31,280
that was pretty funny

2085
01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:33,920
i just gmailed your ufo joe one okay i

2086
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:37,199
will look for it i will look for it um

2087
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:39,600
thank you for doing that

2088
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:40,640
and

2089
01:16:46,149 --> 01:16:44,159
i'll put up my banner one more time

2090
01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:46,159
which i just made tonight

2091
01:16:50,870 --> 01:16:49,040
let's see i have not listened to that

2092
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:50,880
interview

2093
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:53,280
then charlie parish is working on

2094
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:55,679
an abduction documentary

2095
01:17:01,189 --> 01:16:58,400
because he has all of david jacobs bud

2096
01:17:02,790 --> 01:17:01,199
hopkins and john max files so that

2097
01:17:04,709 --> 01:17:02,800
should be something everybody will want

2098
01:17:07,270 --> 01:17:04,719
to see because he says there's stuff

2099
01:17:11,189 --> 01:17:07,280
that we have not seen that

2100
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:11,199
puts a different light on abductions um

2101
01:17:14,229 --> 01:17:12,719
i'm not saying if it's positive or

2102
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:14,239
negative and he says a couple of times

2103
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:15,440
he wanted to sit down with ray and

2104
01:17:19,510 --> 01:17:17,920
interview him but he declined absolutely

2105
01:17:21,189 --> 01:17:19,520
my tactics were wrong from the start

2106
01:17:22,630 --> 01:17:21,199
because i immediately i was immediately

2107
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,640
critical

2108
01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:24,159
he said that's all good i'm only about

2109
01:17:28,390 --> 01:17:26,960
abduction because the experience the the

2110
01:17:30,390 --> 01:17:28,400
free experience

2111
01:17:32,229 --> 01:17:30,400
survey some of it's about abduction but

2112
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:32,239
some of it's just about encounters that

2113
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,390
let's see

2114
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:41,750
and then interview with knapp and

2115
01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,600
hernandez which i probably watch i need

2116
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:45,520
to watch again

2117
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:46,810
and back to the

2118
01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:48,320
[Laughter]

2119
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:51,360
so somebody quickly put lou's real face

2120
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:53,600
in there so like that really looks like

2121
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:55,440
lou first guy was close but that is

2122
01:18:00,709 --> 01:17:57,600
actually lou so that was really funny

2123
01:18:02,470 --> 01:18:00,719
uplifting tweets did that

2124
01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:02,480
and and then jay christopher king who i

2125
01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:04,719
interviewed on my i think he's

2126
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:06,960
he's an experiencer who i interviewed um

2127
01:18:10,070 --> 01:18:08,159
he's had some

2128
01:18:11,669 --> 01:18:10,080
impressive experiences where he had his

2129
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:11,679
family members his mother and his

2130
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:13,120
girlfriend and

2131
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:14,960
friends speak about it because they were

2132
01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:19,510
and he talks about

2133
01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:21,760
rey hernandez saying it's a bit weird he

2134
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,600
won't sit down with anyone unless they

2135
01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:25,440
have a phd considering

2136
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:27,199
they didn't even bother to put an index

2137
01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:29,040
in the mammoth book so there's no index

2138
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:30,800
in the book that they have which really

2139
01:18:34,709 --> 01:18:32,159
hurts the chances of it being used

2140
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:34,719
regularly with much depth

2141
01:18:38,630 --> 01:18:37,040
do as i say not as i do i suppose so

2142
01:18:42,790 --> 01:18:38,640
like i said it was take shots at ray

2143
01:18:54,470 --> 01:18:45,110
and

2144
01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:54,480
theory that

2145
01:18:58,550 --> 01:18:55,280
the

2146
01:19:01,110 --> 01:18:58,560
corruption systems are somehow creating

2147
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:01,120
holes in the whole time

2148
01:19:04,709 --> 01:19:02,960
fabric and that's how prehistoric

2149
01:19:06,070 --> 01:19:04,719
creatures are getting through so and i

2150
01:19:08,070 --> 01:19:06,080
was like well not all the creatures that

2151
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:08,080
are seen are prehistoric some of them

2152
01:19:13,189 --> 01:19:10,400
are ridiculous like dog men wearing

2153
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:13,199
trench coats smoking or you know

2154
01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:14,640
stuff like that so i don't think it's

2155
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:16,800
just and then they said maybe the the

2156
01:19:20,470 --> 01:19:18,560
footprints i don't want to pull up the

2157
01:19:22,149 --> 01:19:20,480
graphic but that was the theory the

2158
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:22,159
footprints that you see around dinosaurs

2159
01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:23,840
maybe that's because somehow humans have

2160
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:25,679
traveled through time

2161
01:19:29,750 --> 01:19:27,520
because of this propulsion

2162
01:19:31,510 --> 01:19:29,760
um so that was the idea

2163
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:31,520
let's my computer doesn't pull that

2164
01:19:35,270 --> 01:19:33,679
stuff up quick um big enough to even

2165
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:35,280
read it

2166
01:19:39,430 --> 01:19:37,120
but it was interesting

2167
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:39,440
um and then sean

2168
01:19:43,590 --> 01:19:41,360
who's was witness citizen wrote a nice

2169
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:43,600
article on liberation times

2170
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:45,440
that i forgot to tweet about the other

2171
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:47,440
day you should check out he does a lot

2172
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:49,360
of old documents that i had never seen

2173
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:50,960
before

2174
01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:55,040
i've never been a document guy um

2175
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:56,880
until i started working on my wilson

2176
01:20:02,070 --> 01:19:58,400
davis blog which i won't get into now

2177
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:02,080
there was a 1961 snie

2178
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:04,400
national intelligence estimate

2179
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:05,760
i think

2180
01:20:12,070 --> 01:20:10,550
i had a great source for

2181
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:12,080
but this is a great quote because people

2182
01:20:15,669 --> 01:20:13,679
are like we're dealing with

2183
01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:15,679
time travelers and whitley strieber when

2184
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:22,070
it was that's not what i wanted to do

2185
01:20:29,590 --> 01:20:27,030
whitley strieber i went to concede

2186
01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:29,600
lecture i can talk about this in 2018 i

2187
01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:30,400
saw

2188
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:33,440
but

2189
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:36,400
it was at somebody's house in malibu

2190
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:37,600
really small

2191
01:20:41,510 --> 01:20:38,880
small group

2192
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:41,520
i'd say it was about 20 people

2193
01:20:45,750 --> 01:20:43,920
and i put my iphone down and recorded

2194
01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:45,760
the entire thing

2195
01:20:51,030 --> 01:20:47,600
i think it was recorded video but only

2196
01:20:53,110 --> 01:20:51,040
for subscribers to his unknown country

2197
01:21:01,350 --> 01:20:53,120
and

2198
01:21:02,870 --> 01:21:01,360
darn it man i still have a long way to

2199
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:02,880
go i'm not going to do the whole thing

2200
01:21:06,790 --> 01:21:04,000
here

2201
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:06,800
and i transcribed the entire thing

2202
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:08,239
and yeah we didn't even get to anything

2203
01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:10,320
yesterday i mean from today

2204
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:11,440
because there were updates with the

2205
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:16,390
like i'll go for 10 more minutes i got

2206
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:18,159
to find it um

2207
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:20,159
so whitley said

2208
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:21,760
i think that's another what we're

2209
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:23,360
dealing with is another level of the

2210
01:21:27,590 --> 01:21:25,120
human species i think

2211
01:21:29,270 --> 01:21:27,600
that we are in contact with ourselves i

2212
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:29,280
think that's the joke of the whole thing

2213
01:21:33,030 --> 01:21:30,960
we're all looking up in the sky when we

2214
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:33,040
should be looking at each other

2215
01:21:35,990 --> 01:21:34,480
and he also tells a story if somebody

2216
01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:36,000
went to his cabin and

2217
01:21:39,189 --> 01:21:37,280
saw this

2218
01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:39,199
being and

2219
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:41,280
the woman who saw it she made this face

2220
01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:42,880
and the being said why are you reacting

2221
01:21:47,350 --> 01:21:44,719
like that she said because you're

2222
01:21:49,030 --> 01:21:47,360
hideous and the being said just wait one

2223
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:49,040
day you're gonna look just like us so it

2224
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:51,520
makes me think if that's true they're

2225
01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:52,960
trying to say you know they're time

2226
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:54,639
travelers so we're connected to us

2227
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:01,510
if they're really improving us with

2228
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:02,960
abductions i say please hurry the

2229
01:22:07,110 --> 01:22:05,040
program we're in trouble take crispr and

2230
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:07,120
snip out our greed and violence game

2231
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:10,080
jeans okay thanks i know so

2232
01:22:13,910 --> 01:22:12,960
what the hell are you doing i know right

2233
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:13,920
make us

2234
01:22:17,910 --> 01:22:15,040
better

2235
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:17,920
worse so

2236
01:22:20,229 --> 01:22:19,280
maybe they've given up they're like you

2237
01:22:22,310 --> 01:22:20,239
know what

2238
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:22,320
this is hopeless

2239
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:24,960
um

2240
01:22:29,750 --> 01:22:27,440
all contact modalities i know i mean the

2241
01:22:31,270 --> 01:22:29,760
whole contact modalities thing i'm not

2242
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:31,280
even sure if all of that's related to

2243
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:32,880
contact i know some people think it's

2244
01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:35,280
all connected all related whether it's

2245
01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:36,639
out of body

2246
01:22:39,990 --> 01:22:37,760
stuff

2247
01:22:42,470 --> 01:22:40,000
anything you know maybe it is all

2248
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,480
connected i don't know

2249
01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:43,920
let's see

2250
01:22:47,590 --> 01:22:45,920
um

2251
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:47,600
this is victor

2252
01:22:51,430 --> 01:22:49,760
talking about ray hernandez

2253
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:51,440
i believe his experience is why he's so

2254
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:54,480
biased and steering his data that way

2255
01:22:59,669 --> 01:22:57,679
if angelic space-faring veterinarians i

2256
01:23:02,229 --> 01:22:59,679
thought it was vegetarians veterinarians

2257
01:23:04,070 --> 01:23:02,239
healed my sick dog which happened to rey

2258
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:04,080
i might think like he does they should

2259
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:05,760
have kept him as a data point and not

2260
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:08,080
the co-founder in my opinion

2261
01:23:13,110 --> 01:23:09,440
um yeah he's

2262
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:13,120
i heard he's very hard to debate with

2263
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:15,679
um and then speaking of the free the

2264
01:23:18,149 --> 01:23:16,880
free survey

2265
01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:18,159
exo

2266
01:23:23,830 --> 01:23:21,760
i academium has written about or

2267
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:23,840
actually done a whole

2268
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:25,360
video on it

2269
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:26,880
i don't i probably won't be able to link

2270
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:28,880
to everything i mention here one of the

2271
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:31,600
first interviews long form interviews uh

2272
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:34,719
lou did was 2018 of february with gianna

2273
01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:36,480
giuliano morenkovic and i remember i was

2274
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:38,239
like oh my god we get the air for lou it

2275
01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:40,320
was over an hour so and there were

2276
01:23:43,590 --> 01:23:41,920
people saying lou's just ducking

2277
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:43,600
interviews he doesn't want to answer the

2278
01:23:48,070 --> 01:23:45,920
real questions which was nonsense

2279
01:23:50,070 --> 01:23:48,080
because every interview lou did he never

2280
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,080
asked for the questions beforehand i

2281
01:23:54,310 --> 01:23:52,159
think what was happening is de long or

2282
01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:54,320
his sister carried along was controlling

2283
01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,320
interviews so that's why

2284
01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:58,239
when lou broke away from ttsa that's why

2285
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:00,080
you saw him do all those interviews

2286
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,270
so

2287
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:11,750
i'm glad he left if that bad decision by

2288
01:24:15,510 --> 01:24:14,000
the long or sister and then

2289
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:15,520
jay the experiencer said we're talking

2290
01:24:18,950 --> 01:24:16,800
about the fabric of reality we're

2291
01:24:21,110 --> 01:24:18,960
talking about experiencing the unknown

2292
01:24:22,870 --> 01:24:21,120
nobody owns that nobody is the president

2293
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:22,880
of having anomalous experiences we're

2294
01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:26,000
all in this mysterious realm together

2295
01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:27,840
except i am not and i do not want to be

2296
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:28,960
in that realm

2297
01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:30,800
thank you very much

2298
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:32,000
um

2299
01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:34,639
i want to play this so bad

2300
01:24:37,990 --> 01:24:36,639
20 minutes so i'll play all right this

2301
01:24:39,430 --> 01:24:38,000
is the last

2302
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:39,440
just i'll tell you

2303
01:24:43,510 --> 01:24:41,760
gillibrand and rubio put out statements

2304
01:24:45,750 --> 01:24:43,520
on their website there's really nothing

2305
01:24:47,430 --> 01:24:45,760
new there it's just on their website so

2306
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:47,440
that's one thing i did today one of the

2307
01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:49,280
last things i tweeted so it's good to

2308
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:50,960
see it's on their website just talking

2309
01:24:55,750 --> 01:24:53,840
about the ndaa and about uap so it's

2310
01:24:57,430 --> 01:24:55,760
nice to see that it's like it's on their

2311
01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:57,440
website it's not a little small thing

2312
01:25:01,990 --> 01:24:59,520
it's basically the same on both of their

2313
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:02,000
websites on so like i said i think it's

2314
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:03,920
going to be gillibrand versus rubio i

2315
01:25:06,790 --> 01:25:04,800
don't know if they're going to win their

2316
01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:06,800
nominations in 2024. i think they're

2317
01:25:12,870 --> 01:25:10,080
both gonna run and i would love

2318
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:12,880
i'm really con i'm really liberal but

2319
01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:14,320
i know it's not going to happen but

2320
01:25:18,790 --> 01:25:16,960
gillibrand rubio running on a uap ticket

2321
01:25:21,030 --> 01:25:18,800
together you know that would be amazing

2322
01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:21,040
if it was like their most important part

2323
01:25:24,390 --> 01:25:22,239
of their

2324
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:24,400
their um not portfolio when your

2325
01:25:27,430 --> 01:25:26,480
political platform

2326
01:25:29,430 --> 01:25:27,440
um

2327
01:25:32,390 --> 01:25:29,440
so

2328
01:25:34,950 --> 01:25:32,400
am i not giving you the whole thing no

2329
01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,669
let me just get rid of that

2330
01:25:40,709 --> 01:25:39,280
i'm gonna play this for you this will

2331
01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,719
let me know if you can hear this this

2332
01:25:46,229 --> 01:25:42,719
will be the last thing i do

2333
01:25:50,629 --> 01:25:49,189
tell me if you can hear it

2334
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:50,639
you have any problems not hearing it

2335
01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:53,360
this is the last thing juliana did this

2336
01:26:01,669 --> 01:25:58,709
so this is from

2337
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:01,679
2017 to now all the questions during

2338
01:26:05,430 --> 01:26:03,280
white house press conferences and

2339
01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:05,440
pentagon press conferences

2340
01:26:09,750 --> 01:26:07,199
some folks on youtube may not have seen

2341
01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:09,760
this

2342
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:12,800
um so let me know if there's any audio

2343
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:19,990
if you can't hear it let me know some of

2344
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:29,669
i can't wait till the day where we go

2345
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:31,440
back and say remember when you laughed

2346
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:33,280
at that

2347
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:35,280
jordan thanks sarah i actually want to

2348
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:42,390
just somebody give me a comment that you

2349
01:27:02,950 --> 01:26:47,830
several media reports this week

2350
01:27:05,830 --> 01:27:04,470
reports disclosed the existence of a

2351
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:05,840
secret pentagon program that was

2352
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:08,000
researching ufos funding ran out for

2353
01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,800
that in 2012. um does the president

2354
01:27:15,030 --> 01:27:13,360
believe in these assistance of ufos and

2355
01:27:16,950 --> 01:27:15,040
would he be interested in restoring

2356
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:16,960
funding for that program somehow that

2357
01:27:20,709 --> 01:27:18,880
question hasn't come up in our back and

2358
01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:20,719
forth over the last couple days but i

2359
01:27:24,709 --> 01:27:22,719
will uh check into that and be happy to

2360
01:27:29,189 --> 01:27:24,719
circle back and then finally on the one

2361
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:30,830
those

2362
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:33,040
questions see if we can get to all of

2363
01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:35,199
that i'm correspondent alexis

2364
01:27:39,350 --> 01:27:37,040
simendinger i asked the hills white

2365
01:27:40,870 --> 01:27:39,360
house correspondent jordan fabian why he

2366
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:40,880
decided to ask the president's

2367
01:27:46,950 --> 01:27:43,760
spokeswoman about ufos which turned him

2368
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:46,960
into an instant social media sensation

2369
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:49,440
well i think because i said thank sarah

2370
01:27:54,950 --> 01:27:51,760
when i was called on it activated the

2371
01:27:56,550 --> 01:27:54,960
siri function on my phone so

2372
01:27:58,310 --> 01:27:56,560
it opened up and started talking and

2373
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:58,320
actually started pulling up my contacts

2374
01:28:02,390 --> 01:28:00,960
and read them aloud

2375
01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:02,400
i guess some people including sarah

2376
01:28:05,189 --> 01:28:03,600
huckabee sanders thought there was an

2377
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:05,199
extraterrestrial presence in the

2378
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:07,440
briefing room and blame that for the

2379
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:08,639
interruption

2380
01:28:12,790 --> 01:28:10,960
uh i have to ask you sarah sanders said

2381
01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:12,800
she would circle back and get an answer

2382
01:28:17,669 --> 01:28:15,360
for you and uh i'm going to assume you

2383
01:28:20,709 --> 01:28:17,679
haven't heard back from her quite yet i

2384
01:28:22,229 --> 01:28:20,719
have not uh but uh yeah i i i had a

2385
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,239
private conversation with sarah after

2386
01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:24,880
the briefing in which um

2387
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:25,840
i i

2388
01:28:29,189 --> 01:28:27,920
just basically said that well you know

2389
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:29,199
sorry to cut you off guard won't be

2390
01:28:33,590 --> 01:28:31,600
asking about ufos again and and she said

2391
01:28:36,229 --> 01:28:33,600
that it actually had come up at their

2392
01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:36,239
pre-briefing where you know the staff

2393
01:28:38,470 --> 01:28:37,440
talks about the stories of the day that

2394
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:38,480
might come up

2395
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:40,400
on camera and they discuss this new york

2396
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:42,320
times story and they decided well i

2397
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:43,600
don't think anyone's going to ask about

2398
01:28:48,070 --> 01:28:45,679
that one well they were wrong good

2399
01:28:50,470 --> 01:28:48,080
afternoon everybody

2400
01:28:52,149 --> 01:28:50,480
good afternoon

2401
01:28:54,310 --> 01:28:52,159
i'm nick burns executive director of the

2402
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:54,320
aspen security forum it's a pleasure to

2403
01:28:57,750 --> 01:28:56,320
welcome all of you to greenwall tent a

2404
01:28:59,510 --> 01:28:57,760
real pleasure to welcome someone i've

2405
01:29:01,750 --> 01:28:59,520
known for quite a long time

2406
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:01,760
admiral phil davidson who's commander of

2407
01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:03,840
our indo-pacific command

2408
01:29:06,550 --> 01:29:05,040
we're going to have a fascinating

2409
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:06,560
discussion today with one of the most

2410
01:29:10,229 --> 01:29:08,560
important military commanders

2411
01:29:11,830 --> 01:29:10,239
in the united states and someone who i

2412
01:29:13,510 --> 01:29:11,840
think is in the most important region of

2413
01:29:15,030 --> 01:29:13,520
the world for the united states that's

2414
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:15,040
admiral davidson and that's the

2415
01:29:18,310 --> 01:29:17,120
indo-pacific let's take a question from

2416
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:18,320
over here

2417
01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:25,830
uh numerous senior

2418
01:29:29,110 --> 01:29:27,189
pilots

2419
01:29:32,870 --> 01:29:29,120
from the navy have been reporting

2420
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:32,880
significant ufo activity

2421
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:39,910
there's a reporting process for that and

2422
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:42,880
an office that handles that and uh

2423
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:45,520
it was uh happening over a pretty finite

2424
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:48,400
period of time uh several years ago

2425
01:29:56,390 --> 01:29:54,470
of course that's not true it was not a

2426
01:29:58,629 --> 01:29:56,400
finite period of time and it's still

2427
01:30:00,390 --> 01:29:58,639
going on um that was a really weak

2428
01:30:03,830 --> 01:30:00,400
answer let's go from the left wing of

2429
01:30:06,229 --> 01:30:03,840
the audience to the right wing over here

2430
01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:06,239
all the way in the back there's an

2431
01:30:10,390 --> 01:30:08,080
advantage for sitting in the very back

2432
01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:10,400
row of the entire green wall tent and

2433
01:30:22,229 --> 01:30:19,430
with that i will take some questions so

2434
01:30:24,229 --> 01:30:22,239
jeff thank you the defense department is

2435
01:30:26,470 --> 01:30:24,239
expected to release more information

2436
01:30:27,590 --> 01:30:26,480
about a terminated program that was

2437
01:30:29,910 --> 01:30:27,600
tracking

2438
01:30:32,070 --> 01:30:29,920
unidentified aircraft can the pentagon

2439
01:30:34,629 --> 01:30:32,080
say whether it has any evidence that

2440
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:34,639
extraterrestrial life has visited earth

2441
01:30:37,669 --> 01:30:36,800
i have nothing for you on that today

2442
01:30:40,149 --> 01:30:37,679
thank you

2443
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:40,159
nor do i

2444
01:30:45,669 --> 01:30:43,280
oh cpa with us today is admiral

2445
01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:45,679
richard from the u.s strategic command

2446
01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:47,840
he'll be speaking about his mission set

2447
01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:49,280
and the colored virus this is on the

2448
01:30:56,310 --> 01:30:52,000
record and with that sir

2449
01:31:00,149 --> 01:30:58,229
go ahead i think i'm properly socially

2450
01:31:01,750 --> 01:31:00,159
distanced here the uh

2451
01:31:03,430 --> 01:31:01,760
it is uh for those of you that don't

2452
01:31:06,550 --> 01:31:03,440
know me i'm admiral chaz richard i'm the

2453
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:06,560
commander of uh u.s strategic command uh

2454
01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:09,120
and i have the privilege of leading 150

2455
01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:11,920
000 uh soldiers sailors airmen marines

2456
01:31:15,510 --> 01:31:13,199
civilians

2457
01:31:17,750 --> 01:31:15,520
the way we have put the strategic forces

2458
01:31:19,430 --> 01:31:17,760
and capabilities of this nation together

2459
01:31:21,830 --> 01:31:19,440
from day one

2460
01:31:24,310 --> 01:31:21,840
we were always very humble in our

2461
01:31:27,189 --> 01:31:24,320
ability to anticipate threats we always

2462
01:31:28,709 --> 01:31:27,199
built in margin we always built in hedge

2463
01:31:31,270 --> 01:31:28,719
not only for the risk that we could

2464
01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:31,280
foresee but the risk that we might not

2465
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:34,560
be able to foresee and so a big piece of

2466
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:36,320
why i can stand in front of you and tell

2467
01:31:41,430 --> 01:31:38,400
you that we're fully mission capable is

2468
01:31:44,229 --> 01:31:41,440
because of wise decisions made by my

2469
01:31:46,950 --> 01:31:44,239
predecessors to give me capability

2470
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:46,960
flexibility and everything i needed to

2471
01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:48,960
be able to respond to the thing that we

2472
01:31:52,550 --> 01:31:50,639
didn't see coming

2473
01:31:54,310 --> 01:31:52,560
and that's an important thing i a

2474
01:31:56,110 --> 01:31:54,320
important attribute i think we need to

2475
01:31:58,470 --> 01:31:56,120
keep in mind as we think about the

2476
01:32:00,149 --> 01:31:58,480
recapitalization of these systems

2477
01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:00,159
and with that i'd be happy to take

2478
01:32:09,189 --> 01:32:07,189
lucas from fox lucas tomlinson fox news

2479
01:32:12,790 --> 01:32:09,199
admiral the pentagon recently stood up

2480
01:32:14,470 --> 01:32:12,800
by ufo task force has that

2481
01:32:16,709 --> 01:32:14,480
given you something that you have to

2482
01:32:18,310 --> 01:32:16,719
plan for as the head of america's

2483
01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:18,320
strategic arsenal

2484
01:32:23,030 --> 01:32:21,040
i uh lucas i can't go into a lot of

2485
01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:23,040
detail on any number of things that

2486
01:32:27,990 --> 01:32:25,360
we're working on i'll just offer that

2487
01:32:29,669 --> 01:32:28,000
strategic command looks at a wide range

2488
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:29,679
of threats in fact i probably let this

2489
01:32:35,830 --> 01:32:32,880
conversation get too narrowly focused on

2490
01:32:38,390 --> 01:32:35,840
uh nuclear capabilities right i think

2491
01:32:39,750 --> 01:32:38,400
the 2000 the last npr wisely

2492
01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:39,760
acknowledged that you can have a

2493
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:41,920
strategic attack that is non-nuclear in

2494
01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:43,199
nature that is something that has

2495
01:32:47,750 --> 01:32:45,280
changed in the current environment so

2496
01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:47,760
we're looking at any number of threats

2497
01:32:52,470 --> 01:32:49,920
not just nuclear to make sure we

2498
01:32:55,110 --> 01:32:52,480
understand them understand what might

2499
01:32:58,550 --> 01:32:55,120
happen to us and do we have a strategy

2500
01:33:02,229 --> 01:32:58,560
in place tailored to deter that

2501
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:02,239
that includes any number of threats

2502
01:33:12,709 --> 01:33:09,110
uh thank you there was a media report

2503
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:12,719
that the dod is uh kind of not taking

2504
01:33:18,470 --> 01:33:15,040
seriously some legislation to tell

2505
01:33:20,629 --> 01:33:18,480
congress all that it knows about uh un

2506
01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:20,639
identified aircraft and reports that

2507
01:33:25,350 --> 01:33:23,520
these aircraft have been around ships

2508
01:33:27,750 --> 01:33:25,360
and uh aircraft carriers and i'm

2509
01:33:31,350 --> 01:33:27,760
wondering can you respond is the defense

2510
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:31,360
department taking this seriously

2511
01:33:36,790 --> 01:33:33,120
if you're asking if we're taking our our

2512
01:33:38,390 --> 01:33:36,800
requirements seriously to uh

2513
01:33:40,390 --> 01:33:38,400
to develop this report and to keep

2514
01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:40,400
congress informed of course we are but i

2515
01:33:44,229 --> 01:33:42,239
don't have any details on

2516
01:33:49,110 --> 01:33:44,239
uh on the specifics of the report itself

2517
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,310
hi everyone

2518
01:33:57,110 --> 01:33:54,629
happy tuesday

2519
01:34:00,070 --> 01:33:57,120
go ahead thanks so much jen i just also

2520
01:34:02,470 --> 01:34:00,080
wanted to ask you um about um

2521
01:34:03,910 --> 01:34:02,480
a phenomenon known as the giggle gives

2522
01:34:05,590 --> 01:34:03,920
away i don't know what this question is

2523
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:05,600
let's see

2524
01:34:09,189 --> 01:34:08,000
ruined it here

2525
01:34:10,629 --> 01:34:09,199
but this is

2526
01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:10,639
quite a serious issue there are these

2527
01:34:15,110 --> 01:34:12,080
unrecognized

2528
01:34:17,910 --> 01:34:15,120
objects in u.s aerospace that are also

2529
01:34:19,669 --> 01:34:17,920
known as unidentified aerial phenomenon

2530
01:34:21,669 --> 01:34:19,679
i understand um and i wanted to see

2531
01:34:23,189 --> 01:34:21,679
there's a dni report that i understand

2532
01:34:25,110 --> 01:34:23,199
is going to be released soon can the

2533
01:34:27,350 --> 01:34:25,120
brighton administration commit to

2534
01:34:29,350 --> 01:34:27,360
releasing it in fall

2535
01:34:30,870 --> 01:34:29,360
well that would be for a decision by the

2536
01:34:33,030 --> 01:34:30,880
department of national intelligence to

2537
01:34:36,470 --> 01:34:33,040
make as you noted uh we're aware of the

2538
01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,480
report requirement um and our team at

2539
01:34:40,149 --> 01:34:38,159
the office of the director of national

2540
01:34:42,709 --> 01:34:40,159
intelligence is of course actively

2541
01:34:45,270 --> 01:34:42,719
working on that report and we take

2542
01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:45,280
reports of incursions into our airspace

2543
01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:47,440
by any aircraft identified or

2544
01:34:51,990 --> 01:34:49,679
unidentified very seriously and

2545
01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:52,000
investigate each one but uh odie and i

2546
01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:53,840
would be working on that report and in

2547
01:34:57,430 --> 01:34:55,760
terms of disclosure that would be up to

2548
01:34:59,189 --> 01:34:57,440
them i guess in all seriousness though

2549
01:35:01,669 --> 01:34:59,199
can you characterize the president's

2550
01:35:02,470 --> 01:35:01,679
concerns about this phenomenon i mean it

2551
01:35:08,229 --> 01:35:02,480
is

2552
01:35:09,910 --> 01:35:08,239
objects in u.s airspace that are either

2553
01:35:12,229 --> 01:35:09,920
origin from other

2554
01:35:14,229 --> 01:35:12,239
nations or other entities but what is

2555
01:35:16,390 --> 01:35:14,239
the concern of the president that this

2556
01:35:18,950 --> 01:35:16,400
phenomenon seems to occur and the

2557
01:35:21,990 --> 01:35:18,960
national security approach well i think

2558
01:35:24,470 --> 01:35:22,000
broadly speaking the fact that we have

2559
01:35:25,750 --> 01:35:24,480
um a team that's actively working on a

2560
01:35:27,430 --> 01:35:25,760
report

2561
01:35:29,590 --> 01:35:27,440
certainly the safety of our personnel

2562
01:35:31,430 --> 01:35:29,600
security of our operations our airspace

2563
01:35:33,830 --> 01:35:31,440
our paramount concern

2564
01:35:36,229 --> 01:35:33,840
whether that is identified or

2565
01:35:38,870 --> 01:35:36,239
unidentified aircraft

2566
01:35:40,550 --> 01:35:38,880
and we don't discuss that publicly for a

2567
01:35:42,390 --> 01:35:40,560
range of reasons but

2568
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:42,400
certainly the president supports the od

2569
01:35:45,510 --> 01:35:43,840
and i putting together a report and

2570
01:35:48,870 --> 01:35:45,520
following through on that commitment oh

2571
01:35:50,870 --> 01:35:48,880
i was going to the phones right okay

2572
01:36:04,790 --> 01:35:50,880
um

2573
01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:04,800
a quick question on the the coming uap

2574
01:36:08,790 --> 01:36:06,960
reports um there's been some reporting

2575
01:36:10,550 --> 01:36:08,800
that this could be coming as soon as

2576
01:36:12,390 --> 01:36:10,560
this week or maybe even tomorrow can you

2577
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:12,400
say anything about what timing we should

2578
01:36:15,990 --> 01:36:13,760
actually expect

2579
01:36:18,070 --> 01:36:16,000
the what report matt

2580
01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:18,080
sorry the uap report

2581
01:36:22,709 --> 01:36:19,520
ufo report

2582
01:36:24,870 --> 01:36:22,719
uh that that is uh really for the dni to

2583
01:36:27,350 --> 01:36:24,880
speak to matt as you know this is a

2584
01:36:28,950 --> 01:36:27,360
report a congressionally mandated report

2585
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:28,960
dni's in the lead

2586
01:36:33,189 --> 01:36:30,960
it will be dni who will be

2587
01:36:35,669 --> 01:36:33,199
making that report obviously dod has a

2588
01:36:37,270 --> 01:36:35,679
role in helping um

2589
01:36:39,109 --> 01:36:37,280
and helping flesh out the information

2590
01:36:41,990 --> 01:36:39,119
that will be in that report but as for

2591
01:36:43,910 --> 01:36:42,000
specific timing i'd refer you to the dni

2592
01:36:45,510 --> 01:36:43,920
uh barb did you have your hand up i did

2593
01:36:47,109 --> 01:36:45,520
i wanted to follow up on a couple of

2594
01:36:49,669 --> 01:36:47,119
things um

2595
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:49,679
and the very last follow-up and i

2596
01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:52,560
hesitate to be asking this but on the

2597
01:36:57,030 --> 01:36:55,360
unmanned aerial phenomenon report

2598
01:36:59,430 --> 01:36:57,040
because you said

2599
01:37:01,590 --> 01:36:59,440
because many of these reported settings

2600
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:01,600
have been from military personnel

2601
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:04,000
because you said that dod is assisting

2602
01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:05,760
with this effort

2603
01:37:09,910 --> 01:37:07,440
can you tell us

2604
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:09,920
anything about what you have been able

2605
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:12,000
to rule out

2606
01:37:20,629 --> 01:37:18,629
a science fiction scenario of any kind

2607
01:37:21,830 --> 01:37:20,639
of life form is this mechanical

2608
01:37:23,189 --> 01:37:21,840
phenomena

2609
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:23,199
is this

2610
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:26,480
uh perhaps atmospheric can you can you

2611
01:37:29,669 --> 01:37:28,000
just say

2612
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,679
for people who are interested that you

2613
01:37:33,270 --> 01:37:31,679
have ruled out there's any life forms

2614
01:37:35,189 --> 01:37:33,280
out there

2615
01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:35,199
i would be getting ahead of a report

2616
01:37:39,750 --> 01:37:37,119
that hasn't been submitted to congress

2617
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:39,760
yet and that's never a good idea for a

2618
01:37:43,990 --> 01:37:41,760
spokesman in this town so i don't want

2619
01:37:46,149 --> 01:37:44,000
to get ahead of the report we'll uh uh

2620
01:37:48,149 --> 01:37:46,159
and i refer you to dni to speak to that

2621
01:37:50,149 --> 01:37:48,159
you can rule out at this point i am not

2622
01:37:52,870 --> 01:37:50,159
going to get ahead of a report that this

2623
01:37:55,109 --> 01:37:52,880
agency is not writing uh in response to

2624
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:55,119
a congressional mandate um that i would

2625
01:37:58,629 --> 01:37:57,360
refer you to dni for for more detail

2626
01:38:00,310 --> 01:37:58,639
about that

2627
01:38:02,229 --> 01:38:00,320
thanks i think i've got time for one

2628
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:02,239
more and i apologize for the the time

2629
01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:06,000
crunch today but um i do have to

2630
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:07,760
get going here uh

2631
01:38:11,189 --> 01:38:10,000
paul shankman from u.s news

2632
01:38:13,270 --> 01:38:11,199
and then one last question on the

2633
01:38:14,950 --> 01:38:13,280
pentagon's contributions to the ufo

2634
01:38:16,709 --> 01:38:14,960
report i've been speaking with a series

2635
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,719
of experts abroad who have expressed

2636
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:18,239
some concern about similar

2637
01:38:22,310 --> 01:38:20,560
investigations in other countries having

2638
01:38:25,030 --> 01:38:22,320
too much of a military focus and not

2639
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:25,040
enough input from civilian scientists i

2640
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:26,320
wonder if that's a concern that the

2641
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:27,760
pentagon has shared and whether that

2642
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:29,760
came up at all during this most recent a

2643
01:38:36,870 --> 01:38:31,679
review process

2644
01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:38,390
study uh

2645
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:39,600
again on

2646
01:38:43,669 --> 01:38:41,360
mandated by congress

2647
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:43,679
we're providing

2648
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:46,239
context and information

2649
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,679
that we have

2650
01:38:51,270 --> 01:38:48,880
on these

2651
01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:51,280
phenomena and our focus is on again on

2652
01:38:54,390 --> 01:38:52,480
supporting

2653
01:38:56,550 --> 01:38:54,400
the dni's efforts

2654
01:38:59,990 --> 01:38:56,560
to produce this report that's that's

2655
01:39:01,510 --> 01:39:00,000
where our focus is and uh and and again

2656
01:39:03,830 --> 01:39:01,520
that's our that's our lane that's our

2657
01:39:05,430 --> 01:39:03,840
place to be in is to provide uh the kind

2658
01:39:08,629 --> 01:39:05,440
of contacts that we have the information

2659
01:39:10,629 --> 01:39:08,639
that we have uh to help uh the dni uh

2660
01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:10,639
produce this report for congress

2661
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:17,910
we'll take some questions bob

2662
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:19,520
dylan i'll search off with a ufo

2663
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:22,239
question how about that

2664
01:39:29,430 --> 01:39:27,510
as secretary

2665
01:39:31,830 --> 01:39:29,440
secretary often been briefed on this

2666
01:39:33,669 --> 01:39:31,840
report that's required by congress and

2667
01:39:35,189 --> 01:39:33,679
also just more broadly did secretary

2668
01:39:37,109 --> 01:39:35,199
austin see

2669
01:39:41,430 --> 01:39:37,119
this what apparently is an increasing

2670
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:41,440
number of reported incidents as a safety

2671
01:39:45,669 --> 01:39:43,440
report for the military in terms of

2672
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:45,679
pilot training and so forth

2673
01:39:51,189 --> 01:39:48,000
as well as a national security threat he

2674
01:39:52,830 --> 01:39:51,199
has received a briefing uh on the work

2675
01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:52,840
that the task force

2676
01:39:56,470 --> 01:39:53,920
has uh

2677
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:56,480
has thus far uh conducted

2678
01:39:59,910 --> 01:39:58,719
um the report as you know is

2679
01:40:01,109 --> 01:39:59,920
um

2680
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:01,119
being

2681
01:40:04,870 --> 01:40:03,280
uh crafted and will be delivered by the

2682
01:40:06,950 --> 01:40:04,880
director of national intelligence but he

2683
01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:06,960
has received a a briefing on the work

2684
01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:10,080
thus far um and as we've said before we

2685
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:13,679
take all incursions uh into our

2686
01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:17,679
operating spaces seriously um uh so i

2687
01:40:22,790 --> 01:40:20,320
mean uh like everybody else here at the

2688
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:22,800
at the defense department uh

2689
01:40:25,830 --> 01:40:23,840
certainly

2690
01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:25,840
we are taking the entire matter

2691
01:40:33,109 --> 01:40:31,669
regarding the potential for

2692
01:40:33,830 --> 01:40:33,119
um

2693
01:40:38,390 --> 01:40:33,840
for

2694
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:38,400
mean in other words regardless of what

2695
01:40:42,149 --> 01:40:40,080
the explanation may be or if there is

2696
01:40:44,470 --> 01:40:42,159
none of what they are

2697
01:40:45,990 --> 01:40:44,480
there are incidents in which pilots are

2698
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:46,000
seeing things

2699
01:40:50,390 --> 01:40:47,760
that are close enough that it could be a

2700
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:50,400
safety it is a safety problem it could

2701
01:40:54,550 --> 01:40:51,679
potentially

2702
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:54,560
uh involve safety and or national

2703
01:40:59,669 --> 01:40:57,440
security concerns absolutely

2704
01:41:02,310 --> 01:40:59,679
yeah

2705
01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:04,709
hey john happy birthday

2706
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:06,880
uh there's no way that i can like

2707
01:41:10,870 --> 01:41:08,880
sugarcoat this the i was talking to a

2708
01:41:13,430 --> 01:41:10,880
gentleman about the uap report and he

2709
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:13,440
contends the pentagon has alien bodies

2710
01:41:17,910 --> 01:41:15,760
and crafts so i just wanted to run this

2711
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:17,920
past you is this does dod have these

2712
01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:24,470
jeff the

2713
01:41:29,510 --> 01:41:25,990
the uap

2714
01:41:31,669 --> 01:41:29,520
task force is really designed to

2715
01:41:35,750 --> 01:41:31,679
to take a look at these unexplained

2716
01:41:39,430 --> 01:41:37,189
get a better understanding of them again

2717
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:39,440
i'm not going to get ahead of the

2718
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:41,840
of the report that the dni will submit

2719
01:41:47,990 --> 01:41:43,920
that we are helping obviously and

2720
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:48,000
providing input to um and uh i think

2721
01:41:50,950 --> 01:41:49,360
i'll just i'll just leave it at that

2722
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:50,960
jeff louis

2723
01:41:55,510 --> 01:41:52,960
john can you specifically address the

2724
01:41:56,470 --> 01:41:55,520
reporting that's come out about this uap

2725
01:41:57,750 --> 01:41:56,480
report

2726
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:57,760
um the

2727
01:42:02,070 --> 01:41:59,360
reporting that

2728
01:42:04,790 --> 01:42:02,080
these erps don't appear to be alien

2729
01:42:07,270 --> 01:42:04,800
spacecraft on that there's not enough

2730
01:42:08,870 --> 01:42:07,280
information to actually address what

2731
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,880
exactly they are

2732
01:42:12,950 --> 01:42:10,560
and that they're not a

2733
01:42:14,709 --> 01:42:12,960
u.s secret black program

2734
01:42:17,189 --> 01:42:14,719
yeah look i've seen the press reporting

2735
01:42:19,189 --> 01:42:17,199
on this louis but i'm i'm not going to

2736
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:19,199
comment one way or the other about the

2737
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:21,920
reporting or certainly about

2738
01:42:25,750 --> 01:42:24,000
the work of the task force and the

2739
01:42:27,270 --> 01:42:25,760
coming report by the director of

2740
01:42:28,390 --> 01:42:27,280
national intelligence i won't get ahead

2741
01:42:30,470 --> 01:42:28,400
of that process

2742
01:42:32,709 --> 01:42:30,480
so can you rule out specifically that

2743
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:32,719
these are not alien spacecraft i i think

2744
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:34,000
i've answered your question i'm not

2745
01:42:38,149 --> 01:42:36,320
going to get ahead uh of a report that

2746
01:42:40,390 --> 01:42:38,159
hasn't been filed to congress and i'm

2747
01:42:42,229 --> 01:42:40,400
certainly not going to speak about uh

2748
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:42,239
intelligence issues here from uh the

2749
01:42:44,790 --> 01:42:44,080
podium again seeing the press reporting

2750
01:42:45,910 --> 01:42:44,800
but

2751
01:42:47,669 --> 01:42:45,920
i'm not going to be able to comment

2752
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:47,679
beyond that

2753
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:49,280
zeke go ahead

2754
01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:51,040
and so one last one for me uh this

2755
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:52,719
friday uh has the president been briefed

2756
01:42:57,830 --> 01:42:55,840
on the uh unidentified aerial

2757
01:42:59,510 --> 01:42:57,840
report and is he satisfied with

2758
01:43:01,750 --> 01:42:59,520
conclusions does he want additional work

2759
01:43:03,750 --> 01:43:01,760
in that space uh because it's friday

2760
01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:03,760
it's always a little wacky on friday so

2761
01:43:07,830 --> 01:43:05,440
let me first say that

2762
01:43:09,910 --> 01:43:07,840
we know there have been press reports

2763
01:43:12,229 --> 01:43:09,920
about the status of this report this is

2764
01:43:14,070 --> 01:43:12,239
a dod report and so i'd certainly refer

2765
01:43:17,590 --> 01:43:14,080
to them on the status of the report

2766
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:17,600
their work with odni is ongoing uh

2767
01:43:22,070 --> 01:43:20,080
we the team's actively uh working on it

2768
01:43:24,310 --> 01:43:22,080
but it's not at a conclusion phase as i

2769
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:24,320
understand and i think they've commented

2770
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:26,320
from their building i will say that we

2771
01:43:31,189 --> 01:43:28,880
take reports of encouragement incursions

2772
01:43:33,270 --> 01:43:31,199
into our airspace by any aircraft

2773
01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:33,280
identified or unidentified very

2774
01:43:37,990 --> 01:43:35,920
seriously and investigate each one

2775
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:38,000
safety and security of our personnel of

2776
01:43:41,669 --> 01:43:40,000
our operations are a paramount concern

2777
01:43:43,669 --> 01:43:41,679
there's a requirement to put out this

2778
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,679
report and certainly our appropriate

2779
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:45,760
teams are working on finalizing

2780
01:43:48,070 --> 01:43:46,800
we've done it

2781
01:43:49,910 --> 01:43:48,080
i don't have any update on internal

2782
01:43:52,390 --> 01:43:49,920
briefings travis tritton with

2783
01:43:55,109 --> 01:43:52,400
military.com back in june the deputy

2784
01:43:57,590 --> 01:43:55,119
secretary had ordered that the uap task

2785
01:43:59,830 --> 01:43:57,600
force be um formalized and that their

2786
01:44:01,750 --> 01:43:59,840
the department created a process for

2787
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:01,760
collecting and compiling all that

2788
01:44:06,390 --> 01:44:04,000
information do you have any update on

2789
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:06,400
that process i do not

2790
01:44:09,270 --> 01:44:07,760
let me take the question and we'll see

2791
01:44:11,109 --> 01:44:09,280
if we can get you an update i don't have

2792
01:44:13,750 --> 01:44:11,119
anything updated

2793
01:44:14,790 --> 01:44:13,760
um once that process is complete

2794
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:14,800
um

2795
01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:16,400
do you anticipate that some of that

2796
01:44:20,390 --> 01:44:18,000
information in some form is going to be

2797
01:44:21,750 --> 01:44:20,400
released to the public or do you

2798
01:44:23,750 --> 01:44:21,760
believe that it's going to be mostly

2799
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:23,760
classified information about the process

2800
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:25,440
itself

2801
01:44:28,870 --> 01:44:27,280
the reports themselves once there's a

2802
01:44:30,629 --> 01:44:28,880
system to collect we will be as

2803
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:30,639
transparent as we can be travis but

2804
01:44:35,669 --> 01:44:32,159
obviously the

2805
01:44:37,910 --> 01:44:35,679
we also have an obligation to protect uh

2806
01:44:39,270 --> 01:44:37,920
uh sensitive information classified

2807
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:39,280
information and so

2808
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:41,520
like with any other program that uh that

2809
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:44,159
we're evaluating here at the pentagon or

2810
01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:45,920
initiating

2811
01:44:50,870 --> 01:44:47,600
we'll we'll have to

2812
01:44:52,629 --> 01:44:50,880
balance uh the very real

2813
01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:52,639
uh

2814
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:53,920
rights and responsibilities to be

2815
01:44:58,070 --> 01:44:55,360
transparent with our rights and

2816
01:45:00,229 --> 01:44:58,080
responsibilities to to protect national

2817
01:45:01,910 --> 01:45:00,239
security uh information so it'll be a

2818
01:45:04,709 --> 01:45:01,920
it'll be a balance i'm not going to

2819
01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:04,719
commit right now to

2820
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:07,440
to releases of any specific nature

2821
01:45:12,629 --> 01:45:09,440
travis thanks john i wanted to ask you

2822
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:12,639
about this new uap office that was

2823
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:14,719
created by deputy secretary hicks and

2824
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:17,119
announced last week

2825
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,239
the

2826
01:45:24,149 --> 01:45:20,400
aerial object identification and

2827
01:45:27,109 --> 01:45:24,159
management synchronization group

2828
01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:28,470
it's a mouthful was there any

2829
01:45:32,550 --> 01:45:30,880
coordination with lawmakers on capitol

2830
01:45:35,030 --> 01:45:32,560
hill they're proposing

2831
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:35,040
related legislation like representative

2832
01:45:39,189 --> 01:45:38,400
gallego and senator gillibrand

2833
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:39,199
and

2834
01:45:44,870 --> 01:45:42,080
secondly some former pentagon officials

2835
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:44,880
who had worked on this issue uh chris

2836
01:45:49,510 --> 01:45:47,280
mellon and lou elizondo have said that

2837
01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:49,520
this is an effort for the pentagon to be

2838
01:45:55,430 --> 01:45:52,880
less transparent on uaps and i was just

2839
01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:55,440
wondering if you if you had any response

2840
01:45:59,990 --> 01:45:58,239
on the first one um i can't well i can't

2841
01:46:02,470 --> 01:46:00,000
speak to pending legislation obviously

2842
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:02,480
i'd refer to those members but uh but we

2843
01:46:06,870 --> 01:46:04,320
absolutely kept members of congress

2844
01:46:08,870 --> 01:46:06,880
informed uh as we uh

2845
01:46:11,830 --> 01:46:08,880
as we fashioned this

2846
01:46:13,910 --> 01:46:11,840
this group together and and announced it

2847
01:46:15,910 --> 01:46:13,920
um and it is

2848
01:46:18,790 --> 01:46:15,920
to your second question it is really

2849
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:18,800
designed to help us better coordinate

2850
01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:21,840
the reporting processes um the actual

2851
01:46:26,709 --> 01:46:24,239
reports themselves and the analysis of

2852
01:46:29,189 --> 01:46:26,719
those reports so that um

2853
01:46:30,870 --> 01:46:29,199
rather than uh

2854
01:46:33,430 --> 01:46:30,880
getting them sort of piecemeal and ad

2855
01:46:35,590 --> 01:46:33,440
hoc as we've been getting them from uh

2856
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:35,600
from the from the services

2857
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:37,360
this is a way to coordinate the the

2858
01:46:41,990 --> 01:46:40,239
input so that we can there's a common

2859
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:42,000
set of parameters for how to report them

2860
01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:44,320
and to analyze them and then to assess

2861
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:46,320
what we've got and not all

2862
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:47,840
uh reports are going to manifest

2863
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:49,360
themselves in something that we consider

2864
01:46:55,189 --> 01:46:52,000
a national security threat um so this is

2865
01:46:57,270 --> 01:46:55,199
a chance for us to to be a much more

2866
01:47:00,390 --> 01:46:57,280
organized in the way we process these

2867
01:47:02,950 --> 01:47:00,400
reports um and as we have we will

2868
01:47:05,830 --> 01:47:02,960
certainly continue to be as transparent

2869
01:47:07,430 --> 01:47:05,840
as we can about these phenomena

2870
01:47:08,550 --> 01:47:07,440
and and the impact that they may or may

2871
01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:08,560
not be having

2872
01:47:13,189 --> 01:47:11,199
on our ability to operate very specific

2873
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:13,199
commitment to release some data or

2874
01:47:16,229 --> 01:47:14,560
information on

2875
01:47:18,950 --> 01:47:16,239
these to the public at some point

2876
01:47:20,709 --> 01:47:18,960
something beyond a briefing to congress

2877
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:20,719
yeah i mean i don't have a specific

2878
01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:23,520
report to to announce today that on any

2879
01:47:26,950 --> 01:47:25,040
kind of a frequent basis that we would

2880
01:47:29,270 --> 01:47:26,960
do but i i can assure you that our

2881
01:47:32,149 --> 01:47:29,280
intention is to be as transparent about

2882
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:32,159
uh this phenomena as as we can again try

2883
01:47:37,270 --> 01:47:34,320
this understanding that um

2884
01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:37,280
uh that uh that there'll be national

2885
01:47:40,390 --> 01:47:38,800
security considerations that we have to

2886
01:47:42,229 --> 01:47:40,400
keep in mind but we'll be as transparent

2887
01:47:43,350 --> 01:47:42,239
as we can but not i don't want to leave

2888
01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:43,360
you with the impression that there'll be

2889
01:47:48,390 --> 01:47:46,000
sort of a regular drum beat of uh you

2890
01:47:49,830 --> 01:47:48,400
know of some kind of report that uh that

2891
01:47:54,149 --> 01:47:49,840
gets posted on the website you know

2892
01:47:57,510 --> 01:47:55,590
yeah i don't want to think that we'd

2893
01:47:59,510 --> 01:47:57,520
actually give you

2894
01:48:01,910 --> 01:47:59,520
some information that's valuable every

2895
01:48:03,669 --> 01:48:01,920
couple of months

2896
01:48:04,870 --> 01:48:03,679
um let's see how do i get rid of this

2897
01:48:07,430 --> 01:48:04,880
there we go

2898
01:48:10,550 --> 01:48:09,189
a couple more

2899
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:10,560
yeah that was good stuff a lot of that i

2900
01:48:13,510 --> 01:48:11,920
don't remember

2901
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:13,520
i don't even remember that stuff coming

2902
01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:17,590
how often yeah how often are they going

2903
01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:19,600
to get us information how much is going

2904
01:48:23,750 --> 01:48:21,440
to be classified none of it should be

2905
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:23,760
classified unless it's you know

2906
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:25,280
unless you want to make the argument i

2907
01:48:28,790 --> 01:48:26,960
understand that the propulsion all that

2908
01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:28,800
stuff but everything else

2909
01:48:34,709 --> 01:48:31,280
shouldn't be classified

2910
01:48:36,870 --> 01:48:34,719
um i do not know that i am

2911
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:36,880
i do not know that no i did not know

2912
01:48:39,990 --> 01:48:38,320
that and i know

2913
01:48:41,030 --> 01:48:40,000
there are people who focus on patel and

2914
01:48:41,990 --> 01:48:41,040
it's like

2915
01:48:44,229 --> 01:48:42,000
i mean

2916
01:48:45,910 --> 01:48:44,239
patel maybe

2917
01:48:49,030 --> 01:48:45,920
where a lot of stuff is done and where a

2918
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:49,040
lot of stuff is being kept but like

2919
01:48:53,350 --> 01:48:50,560
i can't i don't know what to do with

2920
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:53,360
that whether it's lockheed or whatever

2921
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:54,960
company is involved i just don't know

2922
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:56,400
what we're going to do with that that's

2923
01:48:59,590 --> 01:48:57,760
going to be up to congress to figure out

2924
01:49:00,790 --> 01:48:59,600
how to get access to those private

2925
01:49:02,390 --> 01:49:00,800
contractors

2926
01:49:04,870 --> 01:49:02,400
that's the biggest

2927
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:04,880
issue if this stuff is locked up in

2928
01:49:08,149 --> 01:49:06,800
special access programs yeah we can get

2929
01:49:13,990 --> 01:49:08,159
new data but i want to see what the old

2930
01:49:17,830 --> 01:49:15,589
i i see your questions let me just go

2931
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:17,840
over this quick because i want to

2932
01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:19,360
end this but i wanted to get to

2933
01:49:26,390 --> 01:49:24,709
that was something

2934
01:49:27,669 --> 01:49:26,400
somebody asked dean about funding like

2935
01:49:29,589 --> 01:49:27,679
we don't know how much funding is going

2936
01:49:31,109 --> 01:49:29,599
to be used for this office and dean says

2937
01:49:34,229 --> 01:49:31,119
i guess i'd expect there to be line

2938
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:36,070
appropriation bills for the office but

2939
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:39,360
the bill requires that major functions

2940
01:49:43,910 --> 01:49:41,679
these for example field investigations

2941
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:43,920
which is the most important aspect

2942
01:49:48,229 --> 01:49:45,280
besides

2943
01:49:51,189 --> 01:49:48,239
you know making field trips for

2944
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,790
to see if that stuff is there assuming

2945
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:54,560
they can actually get in

2946
01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:57,520
but he says the bill requires that major

2947
01:50:01,189 --> 01:49:59,040
functions be assigned to line

2948
01:50:03,109 --> 01:50:01,199
organization so money may be in various

2949
01:50:06,550 --> 01:50:03,119
accounts and some classified and not

2950
01:50:11,910 --> 01:50:08,470
and

2951
01:50:13,669 --> 01:50:11,920
to reiterate the ndaa has not passed

2952
01:50:15,910 --> 01:50:13,679
just yet people are celebrating the

2953
01:50:18,709 --> 01:50:15,920
other day it's you know celebrate we're

2954
01:50:21,030 --> 01:50:18,719
close but we're not there yet

2955
01:50:23,669 --> 01:50:21,040
and just talking about with christopher

2956
01:50:25,830 --> 01:50:23,679
wishing he could do this full time

2957
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:25,840
and i said yes i do do this full time

2958
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:27,840
although i do not make money to do it

2959
01:50:34,070 --> 01:50:30,000
full time so i don't know how much

2960
01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:35,910
i don't want to i don't want to harp on

2961
01:50:39,109 --> 01:50:37,199
that um

2962
01:50:40,950 --> 01:50:39,119
somebody s uh terence mckenna last night

2963
01:50:43,589 --> 01:50:40,960
they said he was speaking about ufos and

2964
01:50:47,589 --> 01:50:45,750
the absurd varying and multi-layered

2965
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:47,599
nature of the evidence eliminates the

2966
01:50:51,350 --> 01:50:49,679
question of what we're dealing with that

2967
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,360
the phenomenons

2968
01:50:55,270 --> 01:50:53,840
if i'm not phenomenons exact obviously

2969
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:55,280
real in the sense people are

2970
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:57,679
experiencing experiencing it that's the

2971
01:51:02,470 --> 01:50:59,040
right question is

2972
01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:02,480
why why are we experiencing it

2973
01:51:06,310 --> 01:51:04,960
little kid feeding birds and i said

2974
01:51:08,950 --> 01:51:06,320
hopefully it's not peanut butter or

2975
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,960
their beaks will be glued shut

2976
01:51:11,990 --> 01:51:10,400
um

2977
01:51:13,350 --> 01:51:12,000
but then bender pulled up pulled up some

2978
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:13,360
of the quotes from gillibrand i'm like

2979
01:51:17,270 --> 01:51:15,440
man he got quotes from gillibrand he got

2980
01:51:18,470 --> 01:51:17,280
quotes from gallego he got quotes from

2981
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:18,480
rubio

2982
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:20,000
i don't think he linked to where his

2983
01:51:22,629 --> 01:51:21,280
quotes were coming from but it was

2984
01:51:24,709 --> 01:51:22,639
coming from

2985
01:51:26,629 --> 01:51:24,719
gillibrand's website and rubio's website

2986
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:26,639
so i don't know if he got a heads up

2987
01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:28,159
before it was posted on their website

2988
01:51:30,310 --> 01:51:29,280
but that's where he was getting that

2989
01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:30,320
from

2990
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:33,040
and i linked to it later on

2991
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:34,480
they are to their websites which

2992
01:51:37,030 --> 01:51:35,920
basically they said the same i did some

2993
01:51:38,950 --> 01:51:37,040
audio

2994
01:51:40,149 --> 01:51:38,960
on those quotes

2995
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:40,159
um

2996
01:51:44,470 --> 01:51:42,239
this was melon talking about

2997
01:51:46,550 --> 01:51:44,480
atip back in april i think i mentioned

2998
01:51:48,470 --> 01:51:46,560
this earlier and he basically avoids

2999
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:48,480
awesome that's a really good interview

3000
01:51:52,149 --> 01:51:49,840
though melons has a lot of stuff on

3001
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:52,159
there that's really really good i want

3002
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:54,639
to make people think i'm focusing on the

3003
01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:57,119
one aspect i don't agree with them on

3004
01:51:59,830 --> 01:51:57,840
um

3005
01:52:02,070 --> 01:51:59,840
and then talking about

3006
01:52:06,629 --> 01:52:02,080
the long offering money to free the

3007
01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:09,510
survey for experiencers and they turned

3008
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:17,350
and this is more quotes from the gila

3009
01:52:20,950 --> 01:52:19,040
brand

3010
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,960
website which i said there's really

3011
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:22,639
nothing new on there it's basically

3012
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:24,239
talking about

3013
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:26,320
the the language in the ndaa which is

3014
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:28,560
about to be passed there's an article on

3015
01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:30,159
skinwalker ranch there wasn't anything

3016
01:52:33,830 --> 01:52:32,690
new that i saw on there

3017
01:52:36,629 --> 01:52:33,840
[Music]

3018
01:52:41,430 --> 01:52:36,639
lisa gallarno said she worked with free

3019
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:43,750
i did she compiled experiencers data and

3020
01:52:47,189 --> 01:52:45,520
was

3021
01:52:48,870 --> 01:52:47,199
very interesting that the trends were

3022
01:52:50,870 --> 01:52:48,880
more positive than negative but as other

3023
01:52:52,629 --> 01:52:50,880
people have said you know there's some

3024
01:52:55,270 --> 01:52:52,639
negative stuff they rejected so i don't

3025
01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:55,280
know how valid that is um

3026
01:53:02,629 --> 01:52:59,440
article on the ndaa and uap in the hill

3027
01:53:04,310 --> 01:53:02,639
um nothing new there just re repeating

3028
01:53:05,910 --> 01:53:04,320
you know what you guys have heard before

3029
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:05,920
what's there's really nothing new same

3030
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:08,080
thing but it's great coverage you know

3031
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:10,639
get the word out buffalo news same thing

3032
01:53:14,709 --> 01:53:12,719
especially with her being from new york

3033
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:14,719
senator gillibrand uh they did an

3034
01:53:17,830 --> 01:53:16,800
article on it nothing really nothing new

3035
01:53:19,830 --> 01:53:17,840
in there

3036
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:19,840
somebody didn't a portrait of lou what

3037
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:22,639
he was thanking them for

3038
01:53:26,629 --> 01:53:25,520
that's the portrait which is pretty good

3039
01:53:29,430 --> 01:53:26,639
um

3040
01:53:35,830 --> 01:53:29,440
yuck sebastian

3041
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:37,430
let's see what else

3042
01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:39,360
and then you know one of the things i do

3043
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:41,119
on twitter is i quote tweet people and

3044
01:53:45,109 --> 01:53:42,880
people get annoyed because i do it in

3045
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:45,119
the middle of conversations but because

3046
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:47,119
a lot of the replies on twitter get lost

3047
01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:49,199
people don't see it as much as when you

3048
01:53:53,270 --> 01:53:51,440
just tweet or quote tweet and this is

3049
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:53,280
one of the things somebody said

3050
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:54,960
to melon i'll believe it when i see the

3051
01:53:59,990 --> 01:53:56,719
united states air force held accountable

3052
01:54:01,510 --> 01:54:00,000
when they're when they comply

3053
01:54:02,709 --> 01:54:01,520
it's getting cut off but they was

3054
01:54:04,310 --> 01:54:02,719
talking about the new program i'll

3055
01:54:06,149 --> 01:54:04,320
believe it when i see the u.s air force

3056
01:54:09,270 --> 01:54:06,159
held accountable when they don't comply

3057
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:09,280
and obstruct a positive step yes but it

3058
01:54:14,229 --> 01:54:11,280
means nothing if not enforced and then

3059
01:54:15,430 --> 01:54:14,239
melon said excellent point stay tuned so

3060
01:54:16,870 --> 01:54:15,440
does he know something about the air

3061
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:16,880
force that we don't

3062
01:54:20,709 --> 01:54:18,960
or or is it just a generic stay tuned

3063
01:54:22,709 --> 01:54:20,719
but like i said it was at the time it

3064
01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:22,719
was up for an hour with four likes and

3065
01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:24,560
melons when he tweets

3066
01:54:28,149 --> 01:54:26,800
it gets a lot of activity

3067
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:28,159
um

3068
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,080
an app said the unsung heroes of the new

3069
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:32,159
uap program are the senate senior u.s

3070
01:54:36,870 --> 01:54:33,520
senators

3071
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:36,880
senior u.s senate staffers at the intel

3072
01:54:40,790 --> 01:54:39,040
and armed services committees who unlike

3073
01:54:42,550 --> 01:54:40,800
their predecessors

3074
01:54:43,990 --> 01:54:42,560
had the intellectual curiosity to

3075
01:54:46,310 --> 01:54:44,000
investigate and the courage to tell

3076
01:54:48,470 --> 01:54:46,320
their elected bosses the ufo mystery is

3077
01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:48,480
legit thank you yeah those people i

3078
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:50,159
would love to hear from them one day

3079
01:54:54,070 --> 01:54:51,520
because a lot of the briefings took

3080
01:54:55,830 --> 01:54:54,080
place for staffers who dove they do have

3081
01:54:57,669 --> 01:54:55,840
security clearances obviously if they're

3082
01:54:59,510 --> 01:54:57,679
going to have a classified briefing they

3083
01:55:01,910 --> 01:54:59,520
have to i'm not i don't think every

3084
01:55:03,910 --> 01:55:01,920
person has the proper clearances but a

3085
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:03,920
lot of them do because i was reading up

3086
01:55:10,149 --> 01:55:08,149
and

3087
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:10,159
more talking about how

3088
01:55:12,709 --> 01:55:11,599
you know we're finally getting support

3089
01:55:15,189 --> 01:55:12,719
it would have been nice if we had the

3090
01:55:17,189 --> 01:55:15,199
support back in 2010 to extend awesome

3091
01:55:20,629 --> 01:55:17,199
we lost 11 years of studying the

3092
01:55:22,229 --> 01:55:20,639
phenomenon which is so disappointing

3093
01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:22,239
you know as george knapp has said what

3094
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:23,040
we

3095
01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:24,639
what what would

3096
01:55:29,750 --> 01:55:26,880
sorry what would we have learned if we

3097
01:55:31,750 --> 01:55:29,760
had been studying this for 11 years

3098
01:55:33,990 --> 01:55:31,760
more on the eric davis

3099
01:55:35,589 --> 01:55:34,000
hippie 60s

3100
01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:35,599
and

3101
01:55:38,390 --> 01:55:37,199
this will be the last thing so this was

3102
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:38,400
about

3103
01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:40,480
an article that

3104
01:55:45,669 --> 01:55:43,440
brandy let's see if i'm

3105
01:55:47,189 --> 01:55:45,679
pull this up the whole thread

3106
01:55:49,350 --> 01:55:47,199
this is the last one and this was a long

3107
01:55:52,229 --> 01:55:49,360
thread i did and

3108
01:55:54,310 --> 01:55:52,239
brandi vinson i think for nextgov

3109
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:54,320
let me reach so

3110
01:55:58,070 --> 01:55:55,840
i said i had a lot to say about this and

3111
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:58,080
i wanted to say it tonight on here

3112
01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:59,520
that was featuring quotes from tim

3113
01:56:03,589 --> 01:56:01,040
mcmillan of the debrief and christopher

3114
01:56:04,790 --> 01:56:03,599
mellon of course neither of them this

3115
01:56:07,030 --> 01:56:04,800
annoyed me

3116
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:07,040
they're talking about you'll see they

3117
01:56:11,750 --> 01:56:09,520
neither of them brought up ossap uh

3118
01:56:16,790 --> 01:56:11,760
which was run by bigelow

3119
01:56:19,990 --> 01:56:18,709
and

3120
01:56:22,149 --> 01:56:20,000
i don't know how you talk about the

3121
01:56:23,910 --> 01:56:22,159
history of what went on in the past

3122
01:56:25,109 --> 01:56:23,920
if you don't mention awesome like i said

3123
01:56:27,750 --> 01:56:25,119
you can mention it without bringing up

3124
01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:27,760
poltergeist as keller keller said to me

3125
01:56:32,149 --> 01:56:30,000
it was probably the biggest ufo program

3126
01:56:35,430 --> 01:56:32,159
ever done ever conducted by the united

3127
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:35,440
states government and she writes

3128
01:56:39,430 --> 01:56:37,920
in the 2000s congress approved millions

3129
01:56:41,830 --> 01:56:39,440
in funding to back the pentagon's

3130
01:56:45,589 --> 01:56:41,840
advanced aerospace threat again

3131
01:56:48,229 --> 01:56:45,599
identification program or atip

3132
01:56:50,229 --> 01:56:48,239
this is not 2017

3133
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:50,239
i don't understand how a journalist can

3134
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:52,639
write that it's not accurate it's like

3135
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:54,239
that's what the whole book skin workers

3136
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:57,599
at the pentagon it's like did nobody i

3137
01:57:00,709 --> 01:56:58,719
don't wanna

3138
01:57:03,189 --> 01:57:00,719
i don't understand it's awesome it

3139
01:57:04,870 --> 01:57:03,199
wasn't a tip okay we we know that now we

3140
01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:04,880
know it was not and we've known this

3141
01:57:08,470 --> 01:57:06,880
since 2019

3142
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,480
so

3143
01:57:13,030 --> 01:57:10,800
and they didn't study just ufos that

3144
01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:13,040
should be as a reporter that's not that

3145
01:57:17,109 --> 01:57:14,800
hard to find out so i don't understand

3146
01:57:19,350 --> 01:57:17,119
it i love the coverage i love that her

3147
01:57:20,950 --> 01:57:19,360
article is not just repeating

3148
01:57:22,790 --> 01:57:20,960
what other articles were you know just

3149
01:57:24,629 --> 01:57:22,800
repeating the same stuff we've heard in

3150
01:57:25,990 --> 01:57:24,639
these in the gila brand language but

3151
01:57:27,510 --> 01:57:26,000
this was something new she had some

3152
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:27,520
interesting stuff in there

3153
01:57:33,669 --> 01:57:30,960
um and i said you know also asap is the

3154
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:33,679
one that took on the the tic tac case

3155
01:57:37,030 --> 01:57:34,560
because

3156
01:57:39,510 --> 01:57:37,040
douglas kurth who was a marine he was

3157
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:39,520
flying over the tic tac area where the

3158
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:41,520
water was broiling up he was the first

3159
01:57:46,310 --> 01:57:44,880
one who saw that he is the first person

3160
01:57:49,030 --> 01:57:46,320
that walked in the door that was hired

3161
01:57:51,109 --> 01:57:49,040
by colin kelleher he answered the ad it

3162
01:57:53,109 --> 01:57:51,119
just so happened he was involved in the

3163
01:57:55,669 --> 01:57:53,119
tic tac case and that's how

3164
01:57:57,430 --> 01:57:55,679
bass kelleher bigelow found out about

3165
01:57:59,830 --> 01:57:57,440
the tic tac case and asap did the

3166
01:58:01,510 --> 01:57:59,840
investigation jonathan axelrod

3167
01:58:02,629 --> 01:58:01,520
he was the lead investigator i'm not

3168
01:58:04,629 --> 01:58:02,639
sure if we've ever see how much of

3169
01:58:07,510 --> 01:58:04,639
axelrod's and that's not his real name

3170
01:58:10,390 --> 01:58:07,520
how much of his investigation we've seen

3171
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:10,400
um but much of asap's research focused

3172
01:58:12,790 --> 01:58:11,280
on

3173
01:58:14,950 --> 01:58:12,800
humans who had close encounters with

3174
01:58:16,709 --> 01:58:14,960
uaps and then who suffered

3175
01:58:18,629 --> 01:58:16,719
health-related effects

3176
01:58:20,550 --> 01:58:18,639
and many of them also experienced odd

3177
01:58:23,109 --> 01:58:20,560
phenomena

3178
01:58:25,510 --> 01:58:23,119
in an interview with andy at that ufo

3179
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:25,520
podcast kelleher said all five of the

3180
01:58:30,149 --> 01:58:28,239
military intelligence folks from the dia

3181
01:58:32,709 --> 01:58:30,159
who worked on ossap

3182
01:58:34,950 --> 01:58:32,719
experienced stuff on skinwalker ranch

3183
01:58:39,270 --> 01:58:34,960
and secondly all five of them brought a

3184
01:58:41,750 --> 01:58:39,280
hitchhiker or or whatever that is home

3185
01:58:43,830 --> 01:58:41,760
in that 3 000 miles away on the east

3186
01:58:46,070 --> 01:58:43,840
coast their homes became the equivalent

3187
01:58:47,910 --> 01:58:46,080
of a paranormal disneyland and where

3188
01:58:50,149 --> 01:58:47,920
dark shadows were sort of appearing in

3189
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:50,159
their bedroom orbs of various colors

3190
01:58:54,550 --> 01:58:52,320
would be floating around the house black

3191
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:54,560
cubes would suddenly appear heavy

3192
01:58:59,030 --> 01:58:57,599
footsteps would be heard on the stairs

3193
01:59:00,950 --> 01:58:59,040
people would rush out to see what's

3194
01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:00,960
going on and nobody was there that

3195
01:59:05,270 --> 01:59:02,960
became commonplace in the homes of all

3196
01:59:07,270 --> 01:59:05,280
five people and notably it was the

3197
01:59:08,709 --> 01:59:07,280
families who experienced it by the way

3198
01:59:10,470 --> 01:59:08,719
it's not just five people who had that

3199
01:59:13,030 --> 01:59:10,480
happen and it wasn't just after having

3200
01:59:15,030 --> 01:59:13,040
an experience on skinwalker ranch um it

3201
01:59:16,470 --> 01:59:15,040
happened other places

3202
01:59:17,910 --> 01:59:16,480
and i just don't understand if you're a

3203
01:59:19,990 --> 01:59:17,920
journalist and you have access to

3204
01:59:21,589 --> 01:59:20,000
somebody like colin kelleher

3205
01:59:22,950 --> 01:59:21,599
you don't interview him for your report

3206
01:59:25,430 --> 01:59:22,960
if you're going to talk about what came

3207
01:59:27,669 --> 01:59:25,440
before the gillibrand effort which does

3208
01:59:29,589 --> 01:59:27,679
have health related effects and the

3209
01:59:31,030 --> 01:59:29,599
office is going to go out and study ufos

3210
01:59:33,270 --> 01:59:31,040
so this is going to come up why wouldn't

3211
01:59:35,350 --> 01:59:33,280
you want an exclusive i know it's

3212
01:59:37,589 --> 01:59:35,360
controversial but if you can try to get

3213
01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:37,599
access to the di dia folks and talk to

3214
01:59:39,830 --> 01:59:38,320
them

3215
01:59:41,830 --> 01:59:39,840
anonymously if you don't use their real

3216
01:59:43,669 --> 01:59:41,840
names and you could say as a reporter i

3217
01:59:45,990 --> 01:59:43,679
spoke to so and so i spoke to jonathan

3218
01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:46,000
axelrod today the man is decorated he

3219
01:59:49,270 --> 01:59:47,440
has respected

3220
01:59:51,189 --> 01:59:49,280
um i just don't understand how you

3221
01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:51,199
ignore that so that's just me getting

3222
01:59:54,629 --> 01:59:52,639
annoyed

3223
01:59:56,470 --> 01:59:54,639
and then macmillan commented on the

3224
01:59:57,430 --> 01:59:56,480
inclusion of health-related fact effects

3225
02:00:00,229 --> 01:59:57,440
he says

3226
02:00:01,830 --> 02:00:00,239
in the gila brand um proposal he goes

3227
02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:01,840
that was really intriguing because

3228
02:00:06,470 --> 02:00:03,760
that's definitely something that i have

3229
02:00:07,910 --> 02:00:06,480
heard had kept coming up inside from

3230
02:00:10,070 --> 02:00:07,920
people who have been working on it for

3231
02:00:12,709 --> 02:00:10,080
the government formerly or even some of

3232
02:00:15,990 --> 02:00:12,719
the past programs like atip

3233
02:00:18,070 --> 02:00:16,000
no like awesome tim assep how do you if

3234
02:00:20,310 --> 02:00:18,080
you're going to talk about human health

3235
02:00:22,470 --> 02:00:20,320
related effects how do you not mention

3236
02:00:24,390 --> 02:00:22,480
awsap and you could say well he doesn't

3237
02:00:26,310 --> 02:00:24,400
want to piss off so and so you're you're

3238
02:00:29,109 --> 02:00:26,320
supposedly a journalist that's not your

3239
02:00:31,589 --> 02:00:29,119
job to send to sell self-censor yourself

3240
02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:31,599
so yeah i definitely get

3241
02:00:34,870 --> 02:00:33,280
i get worked up over this because it's

3242
02:00:37,350 --> 02:00:34,880
amazing to me that people are still

3243
02:00:40,070 --> 02:00:37,360
ignoring this um

3244
02:00:41,830 --> 02:00:40,080
like i said it's fine for the senate not

3245
02:00:43,430 --> 02:00:41,840
to take this on right away and openly

3246
02:00:44,629 --> 02:00:43,440
talk about this you don't go into a

3247
02:00:46,229 --> 02:00:44,639
senator's office and talk about

3248
02:00:48,070 --> 02:00:46,239
poltergeist i'm not talking about that

3249
02:00:49,589 --> 02:00:48,080
i'm talking about journalists especially

3250
02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:49,599
people who know better and i know tim

3251
02:00:54,629 --> 02:00:52,080
knows better he got the 10 month report

3252
02:00:56,070 --> 02:00:54,639
on osap he knows what they study he he

3253
02:00:56,790 --> 02:00:56,080
has talked about it he has written about

3254
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:56,800
it

3255
02:01:00,629 --> 02:00:58,560
um

3256
02:01:02,550 --> 02:01:00,639
so tim says that was something the

3257
02:01:03,990 --> 02:01:02,560
health effect that was definitely a part

3258
02:01:05,430 --> 02:01:04,000
of it but it was not something we'd

3259
02:01:06,950 --> 02:01:05,440
heard discussed

3260
02:01:09,750 --> 02:01:06,960
recently at all

3261
02:01:11,990 --> 02:01:09,760
well maybe not discussed from your

3262
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:12,000
sources but it's been discussed by

3263
02:01:17,830 --> 02:01:14,639
george knapp starting in 2019 at

3264
02:01:19,669 --> 02:01:17,840
laughlin at megacon um

3265
02:01:22,149 --> 02:01:19,679
so it's been it's been in the news and

3266
02:01:23,830 --> 02:01:22,159
then it's it as far as our world and

3267
02:01:25,589 --> 02:01:23,840
it's been in skin walkers at the

3268
02:01:27,589 --> 02:01:25,599
pentagon which is as far as i know tim

3269
02:01:29,750 --> 02:01:27,599
has not reviewed or spoken about very

3270
02:01:31,589 --> 02:01:29,760
much which is amazing to me if if you

3271
02:01:33,750 --> 02:01:31,599
write about ufos for part of your

3272
02:01:35,430 --> 02:01:33,760
website and you don't cover that so

3273
02:01:36,629 --> 02:01:35,440
um

3274
02:01:38,229 --> 02:01:36,639
he says i thought it was pretty

3275
02:01:39,910 --> 02:01:38,239
significant because obviously you know a

3276
02:01:42,310 --> 02:01:39,920
lot of this stuff i think arguments

3277
02:01:44,310 --> 02:01:42,320
against this is largely largely

3278
02:01:45,990 --> 02:01:44,320
anecdotal but if you've got people that

3279
02:01:49,030 --> 02:01:46,000
are injured that's a serious deal

3280
02:01:50,870 --> 02:01:49,040
something caused that so what's going on

3281
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:50,880
it's not just anecdotal they were

3282
02:01:55,030 --> 02:01:53,440
injured they the stories were anecdotal

3283
02:01:57,430 --> 02:01:55,040
many times multiple witnesses and then

3284
02:01:59,669 --> 02:01:57,440
they had the doctors go out and in some

3285
02:02:01,910 --> 02:01:59,679
cases which i quote

3286
02:02:03,990 --> 02:02:01,920
they followed their cases they did blood

3287
02:02:07,270 --> 02:02:04,000
work they they followed uh did

3288
02:02:10,550 --> 02:02:07,280
follow-ups on their immune system um

3289
02:02:13,109 --> 02:02:12,070
obviously somebody in gillibrand's

3290
02:02:14,470 --> 02:02:13,119
office

3291
02:02:17,030 --> 02:02:14,480
found out about

3292
02:02:18,709 --> 02:02:17,040
asap or the human related effects they

3293
02:02:20,149 --> 02:02:18,719
found out about that and it was included

3294
02:02:21,990 --> 02:02:20,159
i don't know how they found out about it

3295
02:02:24,790 --> 02:02:22,000
kelleher thought that maybe you know

3296
02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:24,800
they read his book uh the book skin

3297
02:02:28,870 --> 02:02:26,719
workers at the pentagon i don't know but

3298
02:02:31,589 --> 02:02:28,880
kelleher told uh

3299
02:02:33,589 --> 02:02:31,599
joe scheinman from joe from the knpr

3300
02:02:35,350 --> 02:02:33,599
when he did an interview one specific

3301
02:02:38,950 --> 02:02:35,360
case about the

3302
02:02:41,510 --> 02:02:38,960
biotechnologist where they had their

3303
02:02:43,350 --> 02:02:41,520
keller says one of our md phd physician

3304
02:02:45,910 --> 02:02:43,360
scientists followed this person through

3305
02:02:47,830 --> 02:02:45,920
multiple months and actually years

3306
02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:47,840
including serial blood samples

3307
02:02:53,669 --> 02:02:50,400
documenting change in the immune system

3308
02:02:55,669 --> 02:02:53,679
after the encounter that's not anecdotal

3309
02:02:57,270 --> 02:02:55,679
i know tim knows that

3310
02:02:59,270 --> 02:02:57,280
if you're talking to a reporter how do

3311
02:03:01,669 --> 02:02:59,280
you not bring this up

3312
02:03:04,550 --> 02:03:01,679
just just baffling to me that's why i

3313
02:03:05,750 --> 02:03:04,560
say there are certain people i have

3314
02:03:07,270 --> 02:03:05,760
they want to control the narrative

3315
02:03:09,270 --> 02:03:07,280
that's all i can say that's all that

3316
02:03:10,870 --> 02:03:09,280
that's what that looks like to me if

3317
02:03:12,709 --> 02:03:10,880
because if

3318
02:03:15,030 --> 02:03:12,719
i'm going to stop there

3319
02:03:17,830 --> 02:03:15,040
it's freaking it's just

3320
02:03:20,070 --> 02:03:17,840
i don't get it um and then melon i think

3321
02:03:21,589 --> 02:03:20,080
this is mcmillan who ended with this it

3322
02:03:23,430 --> 02:03:21,599
said melon and then they changed it so i

3323
02:03:25,430 --> 02:03:23,440
think she made a mistake

3324
02:03:26,870 --> 02:03:25,440
so tim says obviously a lot of people

3325
02:03:29,189 --> 02:03:26,880
would be upset

3326
02:03:30,310 --> 02:03:29,199
if the ndaa passed without this

3327
02:03:32,629 --> 02:03:30,320
provision

3328
02:03:35,510 --> 02:03:32,639
there's a considerable number of people

3329
02:03:38,070 --> 02:03:35,520
who are conspiracy prone in the ufo

3330
02:03:40,149 --> 02:03:38,080
community who follow the topic so

3331
02:03:42,390 --> 02:03:40,159
they're already inclined to believe in

3332
02:03:45,750 --> 02:03:42,400
widespread conspiracies and government

3333
02:03:48,149 --> 02:03:45,760
cover-ups and that's only going to

3334
02:03:49,910 --> 02:03:48,159
fuel that

3335
02:03:51,830 --> 02:03:49,920
macmillan noted like i said it was

3336
02:03:53,589 --> 02:03:51,840
mcmillan who said that

3337
02:03:55,270 --> 02:03:53,599
and it would be really disheartening

3338
02:03:57,589 --> 02:03:55,280
especially at a time when there is this

3339
02:03:58,950 --> 02:03:57,599
kind of lack of trust and faith in the

3340
02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:58,960
government

3341
02:04:03,270 --> 02:04:01,119
yes so many conspiracy theorists in this

3342
02:04:05,990 --> 02:04:03,280
in this field in this community i'm like

3343
02:04:08,629 --> 02:04:06,000
yeah there are people but it's like

3344
02:04:10,790 --> 02:04:08,639
let's talk conspiracy so the former head

3345
02:04:11,830 --> 02:04:10,800
of atip and christopher mellon's

3346
02:04:14,629 --> 02:04:11,840
colleague

3347
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:14,639
luel zondo told rich dolan earlier this

3348
02:04:19,990 --> 02:04:17,119
year quote this is lu

3349
02:04:21,750 --> 02:04:20,000
i will tell you that in my experience

3350
02:04:23,910 --> 02:04:21,760
there were some elements that were

3351
02:04:25,270 --> 02:04:23,920
interfering with our capabilities he

3352
02:04:27,990 --> 02:04:25,280
means atip

3353
02:04:29,270 --> 02:04:28,000
to collect and analyze data and

3354
02:04:30,790 --> 02:04:29,280
information

3355
02:04:32,390 --> 02:04:30,800
he could have been awesome since he knew

3356
02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:32,400
those people too so somebody was

3357
02:04:35,830 --> 02:04:34,000
interfering with interfering with their

3358
02:04:37,430 --> 02:04:35,840
ability to collect and analyze data and

3359
02:04:40,310 --> 02:04:37,440
information

3360
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:40,320
this kind of goes to the whole i guess

3361
02:04:45,350 --> 02:04:42,800
the speculation of some sort of secret

3362
02:04:47,750 --> 02:04:45,360
government society or

3363
02:04:49,990 --> 02:04:47,760
men in black or whatnot

3364
02:04:52,950 --> 02:04:50,000
i haven't had any encounters

3365
02:04:55,270 --> 02:04:52,960
now i will say

3366
02:04:58,069 --> 02:04:55,280
all right so there's a missing

3367
02:04:59,830 --> 02:04:58,079
tweet there unless i labeled it

3368
02:05:01,109 --> 02:04:59,840
yeah maybe i just made a little

3369
02:05:03,350 --> 02:05:01,119
mislabel it

3370
02:05:07,350 --> 02:05:03,360
i will say without going into much

3371
02:05:09,990 --> 02:05:07,360
detail i did have a very a very at one

3372
02:05:13,270 --> 02:05:10,000
point a very close colleague of mine

3373
02:05:14,550 --> 02:05:13,280
that told me emphatically that that body

3374
02:05:16,550 --> 02:05:14,560
exists

3375
02:05:18,550 --> 02:05:16,560
but i haven't had any encounters and i

3376
02:05:20,709 --> 02:05:18,560
suspect if it does exist and then dolan

3377
02:05:23,669 --> 02:05:20,719
jumps in and says wait wait

3378
02:05:25,270 --> 02:05:23,679
that there's a mysterious like let's say

3379
02:05:27,510 --> 02:05:25,280
quasi

3380
02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:27,520
men in black type organization that is

3381
02:05:32,310 --> 02:05:30,400
out there that is acquiring ufo data and

3382
02:05:33,189 --> 02:05:32,320
lou says you can call it whatever you

3383
02:05:35,109 --> 02:05:33,199
want

3384
02:05:37,510 --> 02:05:35,119
another organization that's doing some

3385
02:05:40,550 --> 02:05:37,520
type of similar work and maybe on the

3386
02:05:42,310 --> 02:05:40,560
black side of the house black operations

3387
02:05:44,310 --> 02:05:42,320
i don't want to feed any more conspiracy

3388
02:05:46,149 --> 02:05:44,320
theories because frankly i don't really

3389
02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:46,159
know but i did have a colleague share

3390
02:05:49,830 --> 02:05:48,000
with me that they were convinced that

3391
02:05:51,990 --> 02:05:49,840
there was an element within the

3392
02:05:55,430 --> 02:05:52,000
government that did do that type of

3393
02:05:57,350 --> 02:05:55,440
stuff and would intimidate people

3394
02:05:58,950 --> 02:05:57,360
okay so that's the end of that quote

3395
02:06:00,550 --> 02:05:58,960
that's that's on my website that whole

3396
02:06:01,270 --> 02:06:00,560
transcript one of the great interviews

3397
02:06:04,390 --> 02:06:01,280
with

3398
02:06:06,069 --> 02:06:04,400
um lou that richard dolan did so

3399
02:06:08,149 --> 02:06:06,079
and tim is like well you know we don't

3400
02:06:10,470 --> 02:06:08,159
want to talk about conspiracies

3401
02:06:12,470 --> 02:06:10,480
just read what lou said so i'm sorry if

3402
02:06:15,109 --> 02:06:12,480
people think there is some aspect of

3403
02:06:16,790 --> 02:06:15,119
this that is conspiracy-like

3404
02:06:18,550 --> 02:06:16,800
i cannot blame them when you have the

3405
02:06:20,229 --> 02:06:18,560
former head of a program saying what he

3406
02:06:22,390 --> 02:06:20,239
just said if you read skin workers at

3407
02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:22,400
the pentagon there's another case

3408
02:06:25,510 --> 02:06:24,560
where these folks in this town

3409
02:06:26,790 --> 02:06:25,520
were basically i don't they were

3410
02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:26,800
intimidated but they were like

3411
02:06:30,709 --> 02:06:28,480
encouraged to shut up about a sighting

3412
02:06:32,390 --> 02:06:30,719
and then the entire town got electrified

3413
02:06:34,550 --> 02:06:32,400
they didn't have electricity so it was

3414
02:06:35,750 --> 02:06:34,560
almost like whoever was telling them to

3415
02:06:38,310 --> 02:06:35,760
keep quiet

3416
02:06:40,149 --> 02:06:38,320
bribed them by getting the town

3417
02:06:41,709 --> 02:06:40,159
electricity and it didn't happen that

3418
02:06:45,430 --> 02:06:41,719
long ago i think maybe

3419
02:06:47,669 --> 02:06:45,440
2008 maybe i don't remember offhand

3420
02:06:49,270 --> 02:06:47,679
so anyway

3421
02:06:50,550 --> 02:06:49,280
i won't pull up my graphics if you guys

3422
02:06:52,790 --> 02:06:50,560
support what i do

3423
02:06:55,189 --> 02:06:52,800
that's my patreon there's my paypal and

3424
02:06:57,589 --> 02:06:55,199
menmo and

3425
02:06:59,109 --> 02:06:57,599
quickly i'll go over questions but

3426
02:07:02,390 --> 02:06:59,119
that looting

3427
02:07:04,069 --> 02:07:02,400
just amazes me that people

3428
02:07:05,990 --> 02:07:04,079
ignore what he said there it's pretty

3429
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:06,000
important if that's true that there is

3430
02:07:11,430 --> 02:07:09,760
somebody swooping in and stealing data

3431
02:07:15,510 --> 02:07:11,440
and intimidating people because we've

3432
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:18,229
so

3433
02:07:20,709 --> 02:07:19,270
yeah

3434
02:07:22,550 --> 02:07:20,719
that's on her if she's using an

3435
02:07:23,669 --> 02:07:22,560
uncorrected article i mean if you're a

3436
02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:23,679
journalist

3437
02:07:31,270 --> 02:07:25,440
you don't rely on an old article of

3438
02:07:34,790 --> 02:07:32,870
i'm gonna end it now

3439
02:07:36,629 --> 02:07:34,800
uh guys

3440
02:07:38,310 --> 02:07:36,639
two hours

3441
02:07:40,149 --> 02:07:38,320
i thought i would be in and out but i

3442
02:07:42,550 --> 02:07:40,159
never am uh thanks for listening thanks

3443
02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:42,560
for hanging out here

3444
02:07:46,870 --> 02:07:44,480
and i've been having problems i you know

3445
02:07:49,189 --> 02:07:46,880
i put ads on i don't make a lot of money

3446
02:07:51,830 --> 02:07:49,199
uh especially on ads but i put ads on

3447
02:07:53,350 --> 02:07:51,840
and then i get this message saying it's

3448
02:07:54,709 --> 02:07:53,360
not appropriate material i don't know

3449
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:54,719
what's going on because i don't think

3450
02:07:58,470 --> 02:07:56,560
anything i do here it could be when i

3451
02:08:00,390 --> 02:07:58,480
play copyrighted stuff maybe but i don't

3452
02:08:02,310 --> 02:08:00,400
i didn't do that tonight juliano's stuff

3453
02:08:04,470 --> 02:08:02,320
is not copyrighted

3454
02:08:07,030 --> 02:08:04,480
so anyway

3455
02:08:08,950 --> 02:08:07,040
all right guys have a good night

3456
02:08:10,709 --> 02:08:08,960
i will i don't know when i'll do this

3457
02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:10,719
again hopefully we'll see if there's any

3458
02:08:14,790 --> 02:08:12,320
new information that comes out anything

3459
02:08:16,149 --> 02:08:14,800
new twitter wise that's interesting to

3460
02:08:17,189 --> 02:08:16,159
share

3461
02:08:18,229 --> 02:08:17,199
um

3462
02:08:20,390 --> 02:08:18,239
so

3463
02:08:22,950 --> 02:08:20,400
have a good night and you're welcome